Morphine Prince 109,648 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,648 Posted January 16, 2017 Author Share Posted January 16, 2017 Wow, our foreign relations are so good a few days before he's president. Is this the "winning" he said we would all get sick of? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrelevant 20,293 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I live in China rn . And i'm american taiwanese Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delusional Aura 5,129 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Hereeeeee we goooo It's gonna be a LONG four years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,289 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Here is the thing, I actually agree that Taiwan should be considered an independent state, but what does this approach by Trump achieve? All Trump is doing is pissing off a major trading partner and is no doubt just going to hurt the U.S and China It's just stupid - it's not helpful for anyone. The last thing the U.S wants is a trade war with China - that doesn't help the U.S, it doesn't help China, it doesn't help liberate Taiwan. That's really not going to be pretty for anyone... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrelevant 20,293 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Bebe said: Here is the thing, I actually agree that Taiwan should be considered an independent state, but what does this approach by Trump achieve? All Trump is doing is pissing off a major trading partner and is no doubt just going to hurt the U.S and China It's just stupid - it's not helpful for anyone. The last thing the U.S wants is a trade war with China - that doesn't help the U.S, it doesn't help China, it doesn't help liberate Taiwan. That's really not going to be pretty for anyone... #FreeTaiwan As a taiwanese-american living in China, I 100% agree with you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Ga Ga 5,671 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Bebe said: Here is the thing, I actually agree that Taiwan should be considered an independent state, but what does this approach by Trump achieve? All Trump is doing is pissing off a major trading partner and is no doubt just going to hurt the U.S and China It's just stupid - it's not helpful for anyone. The last thing the U.S wants is a trade war with China - that doesn't help the U.S, it doesn't help China, it doesn't help liberate Taiwan. That's really not going to be pretty for anyone... Just now, redhoodieslime said: #FreeTaiwan As a taiwanese-american living in China, I 100% agree with you I thought Taiwan is already liberated, the Chinese government has no control over it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrelevant 20,293 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Just now, Radio Ga Ga said: I thought Taiwan is already liberated, the Chinese government has no control over it Well kind of, but it is still not officially an "independent state" Spoiler But we have our own passport, national anthem, money, government and internet TLD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,289 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Radio Ga Ga said: I thought Taiwan is already liberated, the Chinese government has no control over it It's a little more complex, Taiwan is fully self-governed but The People's Republic of China still claims Taiwan as part of it's territory. China has refused diplomatic relations with any country that recognizes Taiwan as an independent state and therefore most international organizations either refuse it membership or allow it to participate only as a non-state actor. There are some unofficial ties and de facto embassies and consulates between Taiwan and some other states, but it's still kinda held back by China. I think, eventually, Taiwan will be completely separate and recognised as an independent state but as of now China is still gripping Taiwan by its fingernails. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 14 minutes ago, Bebe said: Here is the thing, I actually agree that Taiwan should be considered an independent state, but what does this approach by Trump achieve? All Trump is doing is pissing off a major trading partner and is no doubt just going to hurt the U.S and China It's just stupid - it's not helpful for anyone. The last thing the U.S wants is a trade war with China - that doesn't help the U.S, it doesn't help China, it doesn't help liberate Taiwan. That's really not going to be pretty for anyone... Exactly. It's not that dems don't want Taiwan to be recognized as an independent state, its just that they realize that we can't save the world all at once Trump is just ignorant. 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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