Maleficent 6 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Tokyo Rose said: Exactly. The problem is Italia's handouts aren't good enough for some people so they don't bother applying for refuge there. Germany, Sweden or UK are the big prize That is their right as a refugee. "Asylum seekers have no legal duty to claim asylum in the first EU state they reach, and many move on, seeking to join relatives or friends for support, or to reach a country with a functioning asylum system." (OpenSocietyFoundations.org) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 All countries, which had bloody hands in those wars have responsibility to take refugees. You want to keep bombing their countries, but you also want to keep them away and close borders. And burden cannot be only on Italy or Greece or Turkey; they already took so many. It should be shared and the life in refugee camps in minus 20°C is not life, it's torture. People like Trump, his followers have lack of compassion, empathy, humanity... till it happens to you, I guess. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Rose 1,475 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Maleficent said: That is their right as a refugee. "Asylum seekers have no legal duty to claim asylum in the first EU state they reach, and many move on, seeking to join relatives or friends for support, or to reach a country with a functioning asylum system." (OpenSocietyFoundations.org) You're right about that. That's why some countries are choosing not to participate in the EU rules and that's their right as well isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maleficent 6 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Brexit was not the solution. If your town is flooding with water, locking your doors will not protect you from the damage. Isolationism is not the solution. In fact, the solution is the opposite--unitedness. Edit: thanks for the inspiration @FATCAT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maleficent 6 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Tokyo Rose said: You're right about that. That's why some countries are choosing not to participate in the EU rules and that's their right as well isn't it? See my above post. ^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
En_Sabah_Nur 9,366 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Curious Question? Why are Jordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia & other middle eastern countries not taking in more or accepting more refugees???! Egypt. W Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Just now, En_Sabah_Nur said: Curious Question? Why are Jordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia & other middle eastern countries not taking in more or accepting more refugees???! Jordan and Lebanon already have the most refugees, millions. They have more refugees than their own citizens. Gulf countries don't have "refugee status", they call them differently, but they did take at least half million since the beginning of the war. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuri 21,636 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Trump should remember now by today's standards America, the land of the sometimes equal and free, was founded by illegal immigrants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 4 hours ago, Tokyo Rose said: Exactly. The problem is Italia's handouts aren't good enough for some people so they don't bother applying for refuge there. Germany, Sweden or UK are the big prize It's almost like people would gravitate towards countries with more opportunities and a better life for them and their family. Imagine that...people going to where they are welcome and where there are systems already in place to help them. Shocking! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Rose 1,475 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 9 minutes ago, Whispering said: It's almost like people would gravitate towards countries with more opportunities and a better life for them and their family. Imagine that...people going to where they are welcome and where there are systems already in place to help them. Shocking! That's the distinction between an economic migrant vs a refugee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Tokyo Rose said: That's the distinction between an economic migrant vs a refugee No, that's human beings being smart enough to go where they are welcome and where there are opportunities. That's called common sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Rose 1,475 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Whispering said: No, that's human beings being smart enough to go where they are welcome and where there are opportunities. That's called common sense. Really? Human beings? I could have sworn they were furbys. The condescending attitude and virtue signaling makes me nauseous! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I'm glad he's in the UK's corner. I've always felt apprehensive regarding Brexit but having the man who is going to be the most powerful in the world on our side is a relief. The smacking down of Obama's "back of the queue" comments is nice too. Trump takes credit for Brexit, he says he predicted it and supported it and now he wants it to work. It's also great knowing he wants a quick trade deal done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatislaps 34,854 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 16 hours ago, lego said: "Taking all those illegals".... they are just numbers to him, not even humans... lets put him in a pigsty let see how he'll squeal then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzcutSeason 3,307 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 He definitely should learn to speak less harshly, but maybe his bluntness is what we need. I think there's a reason he won (he could help in different ways and he won't harm as much as everyone thinks) and instead of picking apart everything he does maybe we should wait and see what he does as president. I agree its hard to see him talk about certain things but he has a point in the fact its not helping the country to have illegal citizens and the refugee topic is debatable (he just happens to think its not a good idea; he isn't a terrible person because of it). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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