DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Absolutely tragic and disgusting Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I liked the basics of the alternative health plan they had that basically made it cheaper for everyone except for those that travel a lot but I'll have to wait and see if that materialises before I make my mind up about this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBEY 57,109 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 17 minutes ago, lego said: Have to post these here is this true omg (im not from USA) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, Hurem said: Why are republicans against it? Simply because it's called Obamacare? Yes and the fact that they didn't want those options made available for people who were in the low income bracket. They don't want to help take care of those who are less fortunate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,922 Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 Some voted to take away the provision covering those with pre-existing conditions. These people are evil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
takemetovenus 4,826 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 This makes me so so sad, I just wish that we could get over all this partisanship style "my ideas are always right" BS that's keeping our country from making substantial progress Affordable health care was finally a reality for millions of citizens, how can you as an extremely rich man decide that it's not necessary? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,922 Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 11 minutes ago, pink sushi said: This is awful.... I depend on Obamacare for health insurance. How much more would you be paying without the ACA coverage? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBEY 57,109 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Just now, Whispering said: Yes and the fact that they didn't want those options made available for people who were in the low income bracket. They don't want to help take care of those who are less fortunate. That is so hard for me to understand. I'm from Quebec, Canada, where you go to the hospital and everyone has a special health card and you "don't pay a thing", because all the population is paying a certain % to the quebec government to finance the health system, and its that way for lots of things. and sure maybe you go to the hospital and wait longer to get service, but i prefere waiting a bit more than have to pay 10k for a broken thing or idk... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,658 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 24 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act It basically aims to expand the number of people insured and insurances can't deny you due to pre-existing conditions. Pre existing conditions? Like what? why would a healthcare place ever want to deny you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBEY 57,109 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Just now, ChaosAngelX69 said: Like what? why would a healthcare place ever want to deny you? Hum Some companies don't assure you if you have different deseases and stuff/or assure you but if you have that certain type of health issue you don't receive a thing, i think it's common. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,922 Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 Just now, ChaosAngelX69 said: Pre existing conditions? Like what? why would a healthcare place ever want to deny you? Because if you have a pre-existing condition you will cost the insurance company more. These corporations see people's health and lives as numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Just now, OBEY said: That is so hard for me to understand. I'm from Quebec, Canada, where you go to the hospital and everyone has a special health card and you "don't pay a thing", because all the population is paying a certain % to the quebec government to finance the health system, and its that way for lots of things. and sure maybe you go to the hospital and wait longer to get service, but i prefere waiting a bit more than have to pay 10k for a broken thing or idk... Those who are more fortunate do not want to wait for appointments or services, therefore they want those who are less fortunate to have no options. They keep their special services by keeping others down. They don't want to have equality in healthcare, because they think they deserve better care because they have money. Also, no one wants a tax rate that increases significantly. That's an impossible sell, so the ACA was the next best option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBEY 57,109 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Just now, Whispering said: Those who are more fortunate do not want to wait for appointments or services, therefore they want those who are less fortunate to have no options. They keep their special services by keeping others down. They don't want to have equality in healthcare, because they think they deserve better care because they have money. Also, no one wants a tax rate that increases significantly. That's an impossible sell, so the ACA was the next best option. Here we have public hospitals for everyone, and then private clinics where people can do there and pay. But still, everyone pays the taxes to finance the public hospitals etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
venusfly 17,885 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 40 minutes ago, OBEY said: Can someone explain to me like simply what is Obamacare? does it give health insurance for family that are poor or less money than average? It makes it a legal requirement for you to have health insurance, and stops insurance companies from denying you on pre-existing health conditions. Under ObamaCare if you don't get insurance they begin to fine you for it. It doesn't really do the job it was intended to, I would like to think Trump would expand it into something more helpful for poor people but I wouldn't keep my hopes up for it tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, LG said: It makes it a legal requirement for you to have health insurance, and stops insurance companies from denying you on pre-existing health conditions. Under ObamaCare if you don't get insurance they begin to fine you for it. It doesn't really do the job it was intended to, I would like to think Trump would expand it into something more helpful for poor people but I wouldn't keep my hopes up for it tbh. You can't cover preexisting conditions with out a mandate. It's impossible to make one work without the other and still keep it affordable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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