KleinGa 18,177 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Well this has been in the news. What do you guys think? Did Russian hacker hack the DNC and release those e-mails? Did the Kremlin order the hacking? What do you think? What are your arguments for/ against this? Please keep it clean darlings? Let's try to be very diplomatic about this. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatislaps 34,854 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Putin = Puta = so yes the Russian gov gave unofficial hackers the assignment to hack... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 I don't think any of us really know enough to make a well supported opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Yes according to all the top intelligence agencies I've checked. Any attempts to dismiss this are politicized tbh 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,888 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 30 minutes ago, Benji said: I don't think any of us really know enough to make a well supported opinion. We should wait on the reports and the evidence, but I currently don't doubt the claims. They seem logical and they don't have much to gain from lying. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Rose 1,475 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 If you consider the release of damning info about the DNC "hacking the election" because you like being a crybaby/drama queen, then OK. There were leaks pertaining to Trump (grab her in the _) which nobody cried hacking or interference about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caca 1,414 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Why do people always attack Russians? Mrs. Caca's career found dead in a ditch, re-evaluation process started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
estxkid 872 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 52 minutes ago, KleinGa said: Well this has been in the news. What do you guys think? Did Russian hacker hack the DNC and release those e-mails? Did the Kremlin order the hacking? What do you think? What are your arguments for/ against this? Please keep it clean darlings? Let's try to be very diplomatic about this. Thanks. It is very likely.. Not a single hacker, but a group named Fancy Bear. Probably ordered by Kremlin. They attacked my country back in 2007, even tried to do a coup d'etat, hacked most important gov-t IT structures, riots on the streets broke out in whole country (all done by russian diaspora). You can look it up here . Trump supporters - you can **** off, you know nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katsuki Bakugo 9,788 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Ask Russia. Not us. If All You Ever Do Is Look Down On People, You Won't Be Able To Recognize Your Own Weaknesses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
estxkid 872 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Pomick209 said: Why do people always attack Russians? You really don't know what's going on here. They're in midst of hybrid war. Mostly cyber. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteen 5,430 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 SORRY, LONG i personally think that they did, and i back that up with the 17 US intelligence agencies who also say they did. julian assange and wikileaks have been arguing that their source was not russia, but i don't believe them for this chief reason: when they obtained hillary's hacked emails, they did not simply release them all at once as one would assume would be the fair thing to do. i want to preface this by saying that at the time i thought wikileaks had done a lot of good and had a pretty positive opinion of them because i believe in exposing corruption and advocate government transparency. when the first emails were released, i thought it was unfortunate for liberals but still ultimately a good thing. but in fact, i would come to think that their methods of releasing the emails they obtained were very suspicious to me at the time, and in retrospect, malicious. i say this because they didn't release the emails in bulk for everyone to see and analyze all at once. they released it in portions over a period of weeks, a few hundred emails every day. they dragged it out, prolonged it, all the way up to a few days before november 8th, and i think that kept the email scandal in the media for so long and subsequently the media coverage made it seem like hillary was worse than she actually is (she is for sure an imperfect candidate, but not to the dramatic extent many people think she is partly because of this drawn out email scandal). julian assange did an interview with fox news in the last couple of days saying that the source for the emails was not russia, but i think it's an attempt to salvage wikileaks' reputation since many people believe it was partly responsible for the election of donald trump (it was), who is 1000 times worse than hillary. lastly, this russian thing isn't new. in fact the US intelligence agencies came out and said a short time after the first hacked email leaks back in february or march (i don't remember) that they believed russia was behind this. barack obama did not directly come out to make it an issue because he knew that it would be politicized as it is largely being treated now; he thought it best to go through US intelligence and wait until the election was over to then communicate this information directly himself and i believe that was the right choice. the blunder here is that the media didn't do what they should have done from the beginning, which was to recognize the danger of the paper trail, that it lead back to russia according to US intelligence, which subsequently means they are influencing the outcome of the election. instead they focused on other far less important things. republicans have power now, and so even with this critical kind of information, they continue to politicize it, with many of them saying nothing about russia. but perhaps the severity of it can be seen in the fact that the republicans are not homogenous regarding this issue: top republicans like john mccain have voiced their real concerns about this and recognize that there is a serious problem with russia's malevolent activity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,888 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 21 minutes ago, Tokyo Rose said: If you consider the release of damning info about the DNC "hacking the election" because you like being a crybaby/drama queen, then OK. There were leaks pertaining to Trump (grab her in the _) which nobody cried hacking or interference about. Because no one hacked those tapes, they were just released. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Y'all are about dumb as **** if you believe this, it's like when George Bush said there were weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East. 1. These intelligence agencies have provided no proof that Russia is involved with any 'hacks' 2. The emails are not interfering with the election and the emails were LEAKS from a DNC staffer given to WikiLeaks, also let's pay attention to the content of the emails 3. WikiLeaks has a 100% accuracy rating, they have never released fake news and have never lost a case in court regarding legitimacy 4. If Russia did hack we wouldn't know they wouldn't be this sloppy and notice how quick they "discovered" it was Russia, this does not happen 5. When Donald Trump said the election was rigged, Obama said the election was impossible to rig and when Hillary lost suddenly it was rigged Here is my solution, accept that Hillary Clinton was a garbage candidate and wasn't connecting with the people in key States, dump the Clinton part of the party and work with Bernie Sanders type people to create a party that actually works for the people then we won't have to worry about scandal after scandal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
estxkid 872 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, 18 said: top republicans like john mccain have voiced their real concerns about this and recognize that there is a serious problem with russia's malevolent activity. Yes, he's being vocal about it, read my posts above, after the attacks in 2007, NATO has built NATO Cooperative Cyber Defence Centre of Excellence, here in Estonia. No one since wasn't able to hack us, and we are a country that is among the most developed in IT. He came here a week ago or so, probably to take advice on how to withstand these awful things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteen 5,430 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 1 minute ago, estoniankid said: Yes, he's being vocal about it, read my posts above, after the attacks in 2007, NATO has built NATO Cooperative Cyber Defence Centre of Excellence, here in Estonia. No one since wasn't able to hack us, and we are a country that is among the most developed in IT. Probably he came here to take advice on how to withstand these awful things. i didn't know about estonia hacking i'll read the link you provided Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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