KleinGa 18,177 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 35 minutes ago, Karandr said: I find it really entertaining that the positivity brigade always goes on about "if you don't like the video just move on and stop complaining and watch her old stuff". The same could be said in the other direction - if you *do* like the video, then feel free to enjoy it, but allow those who don't like it to voice their opinions too. Shutting down an opinion differing to your own isn't very Born This Way of you Of course, there's the perennial excuse that "fake fans" and bad monsters attack Gaga en masse, with a deluge of abuse and violent tweets, but this sounds more like a strawman (edit: corrected spelling). Can someone please produce a list of these apparent tweets from Gaga fans baying for her blood and calling her every name under the sun? Or are they just a conveniently constructed myth to give credence to blind defence of everything Gaga does? Saying I don't like the video isn't "hate". Saying that Gaga can do better isn't "spreading negativity". It's a frank and direct assessment of the work she's produced. I've followed this woman's work for close to ten years and I feel fairly safe in saying I know the calibre of work she's capable of, and I feel that this video falls short. Oh my god, I'm crying at the accuracy of this Preach sistren, preach Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCHIKITAH 2,810 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, Edonis said: No one is quitting lol. I'm just not going to argue over stupid things like music videos or fans with superiority complexes. It's bad for the skin Take a nap love. I'm not fighting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLuna 12,732 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Being a true fan doesn't mean loving everything Gaga does or kissing her ass, it means respecting her work even if you don't like it and not calling her "basic" because she's not doing crazy stuff in her videos. I feel like some people here think "At least I'm not delulu like all these people who blindly worship everything she does, I'm so edgy and cool" You are allowed to dislike the video or other stuff Gaga has done. But when people talk about having the right to voice their opinions, it's like for them it means having the right to bash Gaga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,118 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 1 hour ago, dannydevito said: dont come with that true fan nonsense, the person who wrote this clearly said being a true fan doesnt mean you have to like everything, because "everyone has opinions". You complainin like he said true fans are the ones who love the MR video when he clearly didnt stop creating drama where the isnt any This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 28,950 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, Tchikitahboy said: Take a nap love. I'm not fighting I'm not sleepy And clearly you are since you're spreading more negativity on this thread than literally every other person on here Shocking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCHIKITAH 2,810 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, Edonis said: I'm not sleepy And clearly you are since you're spreading more negativity on this thread than literally every other person on here Shocking Is the internet honey. Don't take it serious. If you can't take an apology then yeah just leave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilkSpectre0 547 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 10 hours ago, Karandr said: I find it really entertaining that the positivity brigade always goes on about "if you don't like the video just move on and stop complaining and watch her old stuff". The same could be said in the other direction - if you *do* like the video, then feel free to enjoy it, but allow those who don't like it to voice their opinions too. Shutting down an opinion differing to your own isn't very Born This Way of you Of course, there's the perennial excuse that "fake fans" and bad monsters attack Gaga en masse, with a deluge of abuse and violent tweets, but this sounds more like a strawman (edit: corrected spelling). Can someone please produce a list of these apparent tweets from Gaga fans baying for her blood and calling her every name under the sun? Or are they just a conveniently constructed myth to give credence to blind defence of everything Gaga does? Saying I don't like the video isn't "hate". Saying that Gaga can do better isn't "spreading negativity". It's a frank and direct assessment of the work she's produced. I've followed this woman's work for close to ten years and I feel fairly safe in saying I know the calibre of work she's capable of, and I feel that this video falls short. I guess it makes very little sense to people why you would choose to wallow in negativity. Do you go online and write about every to show you don't like? Every song and every film? Would you join a book club for a book you didn't like so you could vocalise how you didn't like it? Nah I'd guess you wouldn't waste any more of your life on it. You're a happier person if you define yourself by what you LOVE and being prostuff not just antistuff. The amount of people on here who define themselves by what they're not not enjoying is crazy. If you're fans of gagas 'potential' rather than what she's doing right now why not go enjoy something else for a while? Gaga is doing what she wants and when that combined with what you want again come spread some love for it. You have too much time on your hands if you have time to come to a forum to complain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilkSpectre0 547 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 9 hours ago, Scathach said: Being a true fan doesn't mean loving everything Gaga does or kissing her ass, it means respecting her work even if you don't like it and not calling her "basic" because she's not doing crazy stuff in her videos. I feel like some people here think "At least I'm not delulu like all these people who blindly worship everything she does, I'm so edgy and cool" You are allowed to dislike the video or other stuff Gaga has done. But when people talk about having the right to voice their opinions, it's like for them it means having the right to bash Gaga There is always this hypocritical thing that they don't like anyone outside the fan base bashing Gaga/having a negative opinion on. Gaga but they can say worse stuff because they're a 'fan'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lona Delery 7,214 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 12 minutes ago, SilkSpectre0 said: I guess it makes very little sense to people why you would choose to wallow in negativity. Do you go online and write about every to show you don't like? Every song and every film? Would you join a book club for a book you didn't like so you could vocalise how you didn't like it? Nah I'd guess you wouldn't waste any more of your life on it. You're a happier person if you define yourself by what you LOVE and being prostuff not just antistuff. The amount of people on here who define themselves by what they're not not enjoying is crazy. If you're fans of gagas 'potential' rather than what she's doing right now why not go enjoy something else for a while? Gaga is doing what she wants and when that combined with what you want again come spread some love for it. You have too much time on your hands if you have time to come to a forum to complain. That's a stupid and bad comparison. It would work if we weren't stanning Gaga, but it does not make sense at all like this. If you want to compare, then Gaga is our favorite TV shows but the latest season has parts that suck and we express our disappointment about it. And, y'know, there are people who do not jump ship just because the last few months were subpar to the rest of Gaga's career, but that's maybe a hard concept to grasp. Sometimes it feels like I've got a war in my mind, I wanna get off but I keep riding the ride Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkTheFunk 124,425 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 12 hours ago, Badiuzm said: "Born This Way saved my life and Joanne saved my soul..." What did ARTPOP save tho? My asshole Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illuminati 15,921 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I was supporting her throughout the ARTPOP mess, a full on jazz album and a drastic choice to do a country influenced album but there's no excuse for mr music video lol it's just lazy and delayed for no reason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letmelivemylife 8,715 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 10 hours ago, Edonis said: That's literally a handful of people on here though. It's not fair that people on here are attacking anyone and everyone who has a negative opinion about her work. It's getting out of hand and ridiculous at this point. I agree. I love gaga dearly but there are certain things she's done that even I don't like and that's ok. To expect that everything will be sunshine and rainbows isn't realistic. If you (I don't mean you personally) don't like the video, that's fine. On the flip side, if you like the video then that's fine too. But to sit there (don't mean you personally) and viciously attack everyone who who doesn't share you're opinion is incredibly immature. Nobody likes extremists in any capacity. I love you monsters. I'd be unfixably broken without you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionReasons 402 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I can't with lots of ya'll still tryna bring her down Sometimes I feel like this site is filled with trolls from Breatheheavy and Madonna nation who actually hate Gaga I even feel like most of the accounts with a LOT of reputation are haters who've been on this site for a long time, and when they get a chance, they talk smack about Gaga Guess we'll never know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasia 6,093 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 13 hours ago, Economy said: Thats so sweet Still dont like the video tho 😓 Such a Canadian response FATWIFE, First Lady Of GGD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEANGT 5,279 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 can everyone stop acting like they have a deep true loving connection with a person they've never met? It's cringey. You can admire her and respect her but sometimes the sentiment goes too far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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