Why has Gaga changed since The Fame???

[hELXIG 42,954]

I've been seeing a lot of comments online and come to this conclusion: people need to realise is that it's not HER fault that she has changed. that she is now very disenchanted with the industry, and sometimes even cynical about fame. The fame that she sought with such passion at the beginning. It's the fault's of everyone who used and abused her. Looking back, I can kinda see now that she came into fame quite delusional and naive about what it would bring.

She thought that once she got to the top it'd be wonderful. She saw the top of the chain as being a platform upon which she can stand and use her work to spread art, and use her voice to spread awareness to her causes. But once she got there she realised it was much darker than she could've imagined. It's destroyed her. It's f.ucked her up so badly that I'm not sure if she'll ever again look at fame with the same wide-eyed wonder as she did that back then.

I think she also has regrets now. Which sucks to say. But the list of things that has affected her is too long to even type out! From being responsible for the livelihood of alll the people in her teams who depend on her success for their own income, to the media constantly treating her badly, to the general public after all these years still not seeing her for who she is despite all her efforts, to her own fans commenting on all her social media and fan sites disgusting things about her.

Gaga has been beaten right down to the point of suicidal thoughts and drug dependence. She gave everything she had for so many years, out of an immense fear of disappointing people, that when she couldn't reach her previous level of success it destroyed her to see it affect everyone around her. She pushed herself to hard her body literally broke, and after surgery she woke up from surgery she realised that noone she'd been making money for actually cared about her as a person. And she had to go through rehabilitation to learn to walk again (after being known as a dancer) with little support, and management hurrying her to make them more money. That's not what being an artist is about. It's far from what being an artist is about.

She obviously didn't realise at the beginning that eventually being famous would leave her so isolated. That people wouldn't treat her like a human being. That she wouldn't be able to go outside and walk down the New York streets that she once loved and which made her so happy. That she wouldn't be able to trust people any more who wanted to be her friend because they may have ulterior motives. That she may never find love because of her situation.

 

This is what has changed her. Any lack of enthusiasm she has now is all because of this. She started out with more enthusiasm than anyone to become a great performer and make people happy. But all that her success did was make her unhappy. Now she is who she is. She is sometimes unhappy. She is sometimes sad. She is sometimes cynical about the industry. But she's still alive, she is still making art, she is still Gaga. And I, for one, still love her. 

[hELXIG 42,954]

And this is why I wanna meet Gaga. I wanna give her a hug and ask her how she is doing. I feel like she's a good friend of mine and I want her to be happy. I want to have a real conversation with her so she feels like a normal person, not some idol. I want her to feel like someone cares about her. I want her to feel listened to, appreciated, and like her problems matter.

I'm sure a lot of you have had that one friend who always vents all their problems to you, but who won't lend an ear or should when you need a friend yourself. It's exhausting. You feel like someone's personal counsellor. It's hard not to take on some of the weight of their problems when you are listening. 

Now just imagine being Gaga. She has thousands of fans (friends) who at every night of her show cry on her shoulder, tell her their darkest secrets, want her to listen to their problems. But I'm sure barely any of them listen to her because they're too frantically trying to get out everything they've wanted to say for so long to her. And she listens. She lends a shoulder to cry on. She offers advice and support. Tirelessly, every night on tour, out on the streets when she's noticed, leaving her apartment, for years straight. But she's been holed up and locked inside away from the world with body guards and noone to talk to, with all the problems in the world herself.

Why does noone care about her?!

[DeanWinchester 41,390]

6 minutes ago, Helxig said:

Now she is who she is. She is sometimes unhappy. She is sometimes sad. She is sometimes cynical about the industry.

What scares me is that she isn't unhappy "sometimes". She sounds unhappy most of the time these days. I hope she finds that anchor and keeps herself steady because I don't want her and her art to suffer for far too long.

Real talk though, you can still get hints she does want to perform commercially well still while also preaching she does not like nor care for the bling and it gets confusing sometimes.

[Drin Lon 7,875]

[Reid LePage 4,837]

I feel like a lot of artists in the industry all feel this way, but they're so misunderstood, so they take it out on their fans or on other people so they look bad but the truth is, that this dark scary hold called Fame has actually clouded their lives and ruined it. People like Justin Bieber and Chris Brown, they're both talented artists and the fame got to them and ****ed them up like they did with Gaga. This is a possibility but don't trust me because idk lol

[hELXIG 42,954]

Just now, A Gaga Lad said:

What scares me is that she isn't unhappy "sometimes". She sounds unhappy most of the time these days. I hope she finds that anchor and keeps herself steady because I don't want her and her art to suffer for far too long.

Real talk though, you can still get hints she does want to perform commercially well still while also preaching she does not like nor care for the bling and it gets confusing sometimes.

I know. I worry about her often. The thing that concerns me is that she pretended she was happy for years, and then later on let it be known that she was chronically depressed and putting on an act, so as not to disappoint anyone. I worry sometimes that she is still pretending. And I feel so helpless just sitting here in a different country, unable to contact her. If this were any other friend of mine I'd be in their dm's asking how they are and if they wanna talk. I'd be giving them a hug and letting them vent off all their worries and offerring advice where I could.

The way I see is is that she doesn't care so much about success anymore, because that used to mean writing music for it to be successful. Now she writes music that she loves herself, that she really wants to write, and which she believes in. And if it happens to reach success as well as being authentic to her desires, then of course she will still celebrate!

 

2 minutes ago, Drin Lon said:

I just think too much and I worry about her I'm sorry 

[Redstreak 6,653]

It also doesn't help that her work has seen a decline in quality post-BTW

[hELXIG 42,954]

1 minute ago, Hybrid Rose said:

I feel like a lot of artists in the industry all feel this way, but they're so misunderstood, so they take it out on their fans or on other people so they look bad but the truth is, that this dark scary hold called Fame has actually clouded their lives and ruined it. People like Justin Bieber and Chris Brown, they're both talented artists and the fame got to them and ****ed them up like they did with Gaga. This is a possibility but don't trust me because idk lol

You are so right! I always feel really bad for people Justin Bieber and Miley Cyrus who started so young. They were children, and had no idea what they were setting themselves up for! But hardly anyone offers them any compassion or tries to understand their perspectives. They stopped caring about their fans because it would be easy for people with messed up lives like theirs to not want fans any more. I'm not justifying terrible behaviour at all, I'm just saying I feel bad for them because I understand it must be a struggle.

[Drin Lon 7,875]

2 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

It also doesn't help that her work has seen a decline in quality post-BTW

That's subjective

[hELXIG 42,954]

4 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

It also doesn't help that her work has seen a decline in quality post-BTW

But that's just some people's opinions though. Some people like ARTPOP and Joanne more than previous eras. She worked really hard during BTW, sure, it's the reason I loved her in the first place! But what we didn't realise at the time is that she was working herself harder than anyone should. I'll admit that I do miss BTWGa often. But I do not hold anything against JoanneGa ever. I still love her now just as much, only now I understand her a little more because she's let us see the truth over the years. Just like with the Million Reasons video. She's showing us that she wanted to quit everything, but her friends and family gave her a reason to stay; to make them proud.

[DeanWinchester 41,390]

1 minute ago, Helxig said:

Now she writes music that she loves herself, that she really wants to write, and which she believes in. And if it happens to reach success as well as being authentic to her desires, then of course she will still celebrate!

Yes but clearly with her recent video statement, she's affected so much by negative press/reception. This is natural. If I was down, I'd feel even worse, too. But in any industry, you still need to have some objectivity. She and her team made those choices and it won't always be fruitful or worshipped by the fans. I'm trying hard to support her but her condition shouldn't be used as an excuse everytime she stumbles. This is part of why ARTPOP was so messy because people started saying she never admits she has some faults, too. I don't want the Joanne era to suffer the same. I mean it's just one video I didn't like, I still love most of it, especially the music. Imagine her fans who don't like the music AND trash her visuals though--I bet they're also the same ones rushing into the katy snippet thread expecting, wanting and needing a bop so bad.

[Redstreak 6,653]

2 minutes ago, Drin Lon said:

That's subjective

It's a wide enough subjective that it resulted in a huge media backlash during the ARTPOP era, when she started showing her biggest cracks. I mean if we're being honest the decline in her happiness coincides with her decline in commercial success, which to most people is because they saw her as beginning to release subpar material.

[Blade 5,603]

You've put into words what I've been thinking ever since her last interview where she said "I miss people". It makes me so sad to know that she feels sad and that I can't do anything to make her feel better - except support her art.

And I also feel like she tries to be more open with us, especially with the Million Reasons music video that so many of you trashed. I really think that with that video she intended to show us that she is deeply hurt inside and that she's trying to get better.

[Edge Of Venus 731]

15 minutes ago, A Gaga Lad said:

What scares me is that she isn't unhappy "sometimes". She sounds unhappy most of the time these days.

So it isn't just me who thinks the same! I also think her drug abuse is getting worse, she's been looking quite sick, depressing and unhealthily skinny. I'm getting worried ngl.

[River 116,242]

The people that have a problem with her changing and maturing are mostly teenagers that still refusing to understand that they will mature and change themselves sooner or later..