Chart Discussion: Joanne / Million Reasons

[Coop 15,369]

Just now, Americano said:

i havent watched the video.. seems like its a disaster from what im reading lol

Get some vases ready sis

[Denys 848]

6 minutes ago, metalguru said:

Attention please! A fair criticism of Gaga:

 

I am not trying to spread negativity. Lady GaGa means so much to me. She is in my top1o artists alongside with big names like Kate Bush, Suede, David Bowie, Klaus Nomi etc. Yes, I love pop but I am more into alternative/glam/new romantic type of music. Gaga is somehow different. I am sure that after 20 years from now indie bars will play Bad Romance right after for example The Cure, Friday I'm in Love. She is the frontier of 2010's. Or is she?

I love Gaga because her references are more then top40 success. I can see all the great artists in her yet she is unique. She is Gaga! And I think critics and people are so jealous of her because she is the future. Critics were skeptical about my favorite rock band Suede in 90's but now they are legends. OR   David Bowie. People glamorized him or hated him. Yes, ARTPOP was messy but it was also small piece of masterpiece. Clear the tracklist, make it 11 songs of an album, different singles, get rid of Marina and all the other rich peoples behind the picture and then you have your manic pop craziness with Greek Gods and Andy Warhol. Same for Born This Way. There will be no song like Marry the Night.

ANYWAY.

Maybe Gaga is really tired of people's skepticism over her and she is holding on her own story. Now, it is all about her father's restaurant or her voice. I think the idea of stripped down Gaga is a necessity and good but the product is really disappointing. If these songs are her "emotional" songs I am utterly  sad. She obsessed with her voice. Yes, voice is important but pop music is not just about voice. As a results, right now she is always singing with higher notes, nearly screaming, in a silly way via 80s heavy metal bands like Scorpion or something. Hush, Gaga and sing us a lullaby. She was the queen of maximalist, grand pop songs. I was waiting multi layered sad songs or real, cold melodies with a simpler vocals. We all love Gaga but Million Reasons or Angel Down are not even near to her ambitions.

 

Speaking of ambitions, she is talking about Bowie constantly yet she is not fully acting under his influence. Maybe a record company press over her? I don't know. But my expectations from Gaga was different: She didn't really choose to be fearless like Bowie or she didn't choose the shameless but brilliant pop sensibility. The results are underwhelming. 

 

I am getting sad when I see Beyonce or Frank Ocean all over the year end lists. I am not a big fan of their musics. Beyonce has 5 different samples from Led Zeppelin to godknowswho in a 4 min song. Yet we celebrate her as a new frontier. In an atmosphere like now, Million Reasons is an example of identity crisis as a worst possible way. I am sorry but I think her voice in this song and the song itself is pretty forgettable. I know it is my idea and I don't want to dictate to anybody but all i am trying to say is Gaga is bigger than all of these songs. 

 

The video... Her acting... Guys, you should read Glam and Awe book by writer Simon Reynolds. It is a long, beautiful book on glam rock and fame. Reynolds loves Gaga and his ideas about Gaga are really accurate. Glam is all about lies. You lie to yourself and the world that you are the biggest star on earth then you become one. Bowie, Marc Bolan or Prince... They all gave us lies as a ticket to their world. Even Gaga said that how much she loves lies/dellusions/illusions many time in her early career.

 

So, Million Reasons and the message behind is probably an another "lie" (I use "lie" as and idea) but it is a very blank one. She is a great actor (check Marry the Night) but she cannot even act in the video. Front of the mirror scenes are just off. There are many examples of simple and personal videos with a limited budget but this one is not one of them. It is just an example of crisis.

 

I can discuss about Joanne as a whole some other time but I wish a) She goes back to her ambition b) as a "simple" Gaga, she puts more ideas/melodies/visuals into her products.

 

She needs to be frontier again. And it doesn't mean she needs to go back to Just Dance type of music. Music is a huge ocean. I want frontierGa back! 

 

Jesus! Calm the **** down! Maybe she wants to let u in on smth that has never existed b4 

[BenG 19,908]

2 minutes ago, malazam said:

I think the concept of continuing from PI was meant for A-YO but we know what happened.....

I'm watching it again and I think that it's a good video...

Or she shot MR this way so that A-YO can continue from the ending scene

[Bt1 5,213]

10 minutes ago, malazam said:

2:27

and then 2:30

Fire who edited it. 

And some people still have the guts to criticise people who say that its a bad video. 

[Marco 731]

1 minute ago, Americano said:

i havent watched the video.. seems like its a disaster from what im reading lol

It's not people are just really dramatic. It's pretty boring I'm not gonna lie but it fits the song, it's cute

[Gypsy Life 118,907]

1 minute ago, Americano said:

i havent watched the video.. seems like its a disaster from what im reading lol

hide the vases in your house just in case

[StarryNight 10,107]

1 hour ago, Supersonic said:

Y'all are doing too much. It's a cute, professionally shot with a narrative that ties in to the family theme of Joanne. She wasn't gonna frolick in icelandic nature scenery surrounded by 50.000 sheep.

If you expected something else, you're literally the only one to blame.

much professionally very bright and vivid

 

[ViviLittleM 3]

MY FRIEND ALMOST CRIED WITH THE MUSIC VIDEO. THE GP WILL F*CKING LOVE IT

[Americano 31,061]

2 minutes ago, Marco said:

It's not people are just really dramatic. It's pretty boring I'm not gonna lie but it fits the song, it's cute

oh ok-- will watch after work. honestly dont care i just didnt want DWUW 2.0 to **** up this era already. seems like its having a nice impact on charts already and usually non-crazy videos take some weeks to have a real impact

[BenG 19,908]

Just now, ViviLittleM said:

MY FRIEND ALMOST CRIED WITH THE MUSIC VIDEO. THE GP WILL F*CKING LOVE IT

How GP is your friend

[Americano 31,061]

3 minutes ago, Gypsy Life said:

hide the vases in your house just in case

o... ill post my thoughts when i watch tonight. i like the pink outfit anyway

[GAGAISTHEBESTYA 6,895]

1 minute ago, ViviLittleM said:

MY FRIEND ALMOST CRIED WITH THE MUSIC VIDEO. THE GP WILL F*CKING LOVE IT

My mom almost cried too... 

And she hates Gaga ...

[lordgagx 5,467]

USA
(+1) 14. Lady Gaga - Million Reasons $0.3357 0.3241 (Dark green)

[little legend 0]

1 minute ago, ViviLittleM said:

MY FRIEND ALMOST CRIED WITH THE MUSIC VIDEO. THE GP WILL F*CKING LOVE IT

mine too and she doesnt listens Gaga, only Adele and etc.

 

[ANUSLOVER96 260]

Whoever is upset about the video because it won't help the single become a hit should stop calling themselves fans. Who gives a ****!? I mean if you have to be upset about something, you should be upset that the best visual artist made a basic disorganized lazy video. **** the GP. I mean opening a gift to find a rosary with a cross? This is a nightmare!