Antoni 5,332 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Yes, Lady Gaga was raped. Yes, Lady Gaga has PTSD. NO, SHE DOES NOT HAVE PTSD FROM BEING RAPED. Am I wrong? Did I misread her letter about having PTSD, or did I miss a crucial interview? From what I can tell, the day she released that letter a few news organizations misunderstood and reported that her PTSD is the result of rape. Since then, it's become the general consensus and was even reported as such on the Today show. But she clearly said that the PTSD is from events that happened five years ago (knowing her that could mean 2011, 2012, or 2013), and she has said multiple times she was raped at 19 (11 years ago). I've brought this up individually with another fan on Facebook and he argued that the Today show would know and report the truth. But that's not true! It's not like they're going to call up Bobby or Cynthia (since they're partnered for BTWF) and be like "Hey, before we report what everyone else is reporting, is it true that Stephanie suffers from PTSD because she was raped?" That's how local papers with journalistic integrity work, not big corporate media organizations who rely on sensationalism to make the most money. If I'm right and the media has twisted the story, it's not the first time this has happened. While backstage at artRave in 2014, I asked Bruno (head of tour security, I believe) about the Jakarta situation. He said no one on the Born This Way tour knew anything about not being let in due to a gay agenda. The first he heard about that was when friends texted him about CNN's report on it. The real reason they didn't perform was that Interscope or Live Nation or whoever wouldn't let her because she was going to lose money that night, not make any. He said that Gaga was adamant about taking the tour to countries that otherwise would never get to see her, and the powers that be put their foot down at the last minute. Is anyone else peeved at this, or am I just wasting my breath / use of my fingers? My name isn't Timmers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Surrealist 27,470 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 As far as I understood it, she has PTSD from being overworked (traumatized) during the Born This Way/ARTPOP era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriane 19,618 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 But the rape has something to do with it too. The thing with the BTWB increased it and probably made her realize she had to deal with it because she has been suffering for years. You popped my heart seams, all my bubble dreams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeka 12,372 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 I think it's mostly due to teh fact we associate PTSD with rape and other traumatic events, like killing a person in self-defense or war battles. You are correct in that she said that she got PTSD from the BTW/ARTPOP era, however, the thing is, it's not really known, or televised you can get PTSD from what she has experienced, which is incredible stress and being overworked and probably her hip breaking. So everyone associates it with the rape. However, just because she said she experiences PTSD during the BTW/ARTPOP era, doesn't mean she didn't experience it after her rape as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
He8MyHeart 9,530 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 I think her PTSD is a result of an amalgamation of a lot of different events, including her rape. I don't think you can rule that out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayonse 6,525 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 does it matter tho no more parties in LA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricAlley 1,729 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 It is easier to link PTSD to rape than it is to being over worked/injuries. So the media is portraying it that way. As far as the BTWB Jakarta incident, isn't live nation in charge of gaga'a tours, not interscope? Also if she wasnt able to perform due to the possibility of losing money, why'd she write partynauseas about the whole thing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayonse 6,525 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 15 minutes ago, Timmers said: He said no one on the Born This Way tour knew anything about not being let in due to a gay agenda. The first he heard about that was when friends texted him about CNN's report on it. The real reason they didn't perform was that Interscope wouldn't let her because she was going to lose money that night, not make any no more parties in LA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie14 4,828 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Its kind of confusing and I was thinking about this earlier. I think she implied that the majority of the reasoning behind her PTSD is because of the way she was mistreated and not taken seriously by her team when she expressed her pain. She was forced to pretend that everything was fine and normal. Nobody understood how she was feeling and she was not being properly cared for. The reason why she felt so bad was at least partially because she was raped and never emotionally recovered. But, the lack of empathy from her team is what caused her to feel abandoned, misunderstood, and used just for money. These additional traumas resulted in PTSD. So, those two situations combined caused it, getting raped and then not being treated with care afterwards. I do find it kind of odd that she didn't mention her rape in the letter and kind of seemed to gloss over it in the Italy interview. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoni 5,332 Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 9 minutes ago, bayonse said: Maybe capitalizing on it? 12 minutes ago, ElectricAlley said: It is easier to link PTSD to rape than it is to being over worked/injuries. So the media is portraying it that way. As far as the BTWB Jakarta incident, isn't live nation in charge of gaga'a tours, not interscope? Also if she wasnt able to perform due to the possibility of losing money, why'd she write partynauseas about the whole thing? He didn't say Interscope specifically, I just assumed that. He said they were stopped from performing there because she was going to lose the company money. Maybe he was referring to Live Nation. My name isn't Timmers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie14 4,828 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Timmers said: Maybe capitalizing on it? He didn't say Interscope specifically, I just assumed that. He said they were stopped from performing there because she was going to lose the company money. Maybe he was referring to Live Nation. I don't believe Gaga would lie in those tweets though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoni 5,332 Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, Katie14 said: I don't believe Gaga would lie in those tweets though I mean, I'm not going to defend Bruno's story as if I was there with them when they didn't perform that night. Who knows what really happened. But that conversation stuck with me because 1) he said it was the first time anyone had asked him about Jakarta and 2) my opinion on the media changed a bit after that conversation. My name isn't Timmers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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