Borislshere 52,885 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, Americano25 said: How about you quit being so basic. Says the madonna fan still using the same tired ass "gaga copied" excuse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Vela 2,715 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Uhhh how dare MJ and DB to be dead??...so flop of them Part of the speech was good, but that part was pure cringe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoElectric 191 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Just now, Americano25 said: Oh pull the other one. You're only saying that because he said something postive about Gaga. Whatever floats your boat. lol Because why say something negative about another artist when we can embrace both of them for who they are? Saying Gaga copied Madonna is so childish and plays a huge part in the reason our fan bases have such a large rivalry... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano25 63 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Just now, Devyn said: Says the madonna fan still using the same tired ass "gaga copied" excuse and we will continue to say it as long as she's ripping her off. How many times have we heard Gaga fans say *insert name here* copied Gaga? You really do believe pop culture began in 2008, don't you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday 2,175 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 All of those mentioned legends + her saying "but I'm still standing." Please don't jinx it. Take good care of yourself, madge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano25 63 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Just now, LeoElectric said: Because why say something negative about another artist when we can embrace both of them for who they are? Saying Gaga copied Madonna is so childish and plays a huge part in the reason our fan bases have such a large rivalry... How is it childish though when it's true? You don't want to hear it because you know we speak the truth...I'd respect you more if you just admitted it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 154,749 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 I never like when she talks about Michael I think it's just because of her poor word choice. I know she holds a great deal of respect for him and his legacy but...idk. Then again, aside from some comments here and there, the only times I've heard her actually speak about him is that VMA's speech ("Michael was ___, so was I" X 20), this (the wording issue again), and the couple times she's talking about making a move on him despite him not wanting her that way Anyway, the girl deserves this. I personally don't like her nor do I care for most of her music but her impact is undeniable and she'll live forever right along side the greats like Michael 🧡The blindfold's off my eyes, all I see for me is better days🧡 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 154,749 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, LeoElectric said: Because why say something negative about another artist when we can embrace both of them for who they are? Saying Gaga copied Madonna is so childish and plays a huge part in the reason our fan bases have such a large rivalry... 1 minute ago, Americano25 said: How is it childish though when it's true? You don't want to hear it because you know we speak the truth...I'd respect you more if you just admitted it. What does this have to do with the discussion here? Please stay on topic and try to be respectful of each other 🧡The blindfold's off my eyes, all I see for me is better days🧡 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoElectric 191 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 @PartySick you are right our discussion has NO relevance to this topic, I'm just trying to make someone realize it's not okay to be upset with others actions but then come and do the same thing here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano25 63 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 9 minutes ago, PartySick said: I never like when she talks about Michael I think it's just because of her poor word choice. I know she holds a great deal of respect for him and his legacy but...idk. Then again, aside from some comments here and there, the only times I've heard her actually speak about him is that VMA's speech ("Michael was ___, so was I" X 20), this (the wording issue again), and the couple times she's talking about making a move on him despite him not wanting her that way Anyway, the girl deserves this. I personally don't like her nor do I care for most of her music but her impact is undeniable and she'll live forever right along side the greats like Michael Oh please. MJ wouldn't know what to do with her. He only liked young boys. Let's not forget how many he shared a bed with. I shudder to think what he did when they were asleep. (after he gave them cookies and jesus juice). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioIsOurs 13,847 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 1 hour ago, SKANK said: "There are no rules, if you're a boy..." Freddie Mercury died a closet case because of the rules that are forced on men. Little Richard will likely follow suit. Even if male public figures don't reject antiquated standards of masculinity there are rules. The Chainsmokers are ruthlessly chastised for talking about the size of their dicks and who they sleep with, while their female peers are celebrated for similar behavior; because in 2016 women are allowed to have a liberated relationship with sexuality but men are just douchey pervs. Leonardo Dicaprio, Micheal Buble, and Rob Kardashian's weight is fodder for tabloids, as are John Travolta's hair plugs. The blogs had a field day comparing and contrasting the size and shape of Justin Beiber and Orlando Bloom's genitals. Calvin Harris was irrelevant before he got abs, artists like Shawn Mendes' would be irrelevant if not for their abs. Mick Jagger is mocked for his age, being overly sexualized, and still having children. That is just public figures. The gay men who make up almost the entirety of Madonna's fan base have to combat male gender norms on a daily basis, and develop eating disorders by holding themselves to the irrational Beckham standard of billboard beauty. Straight men are sold narratives from childhood to the day they die about what it means to be a real man. There are rules for everyone in our society. PREACH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 I don't understand why monsters have so much contempt towards Madonna. Gaga and Madonna are kindred spirits--always attempting to break boundaries, empowering marginalized groups by bringing important social issues to the forefront, bringing art and shock into music and entertainment, both have very powerful influence in the music industry. Yes, they had a spat back then. Madonna was mean. But let's not act like Gaga also never took "jabs" long after the issue has died down. They partied together on more than one occasion. Madonna has praised Gaga long after the "reductive" comment. Gaga has praised Madonna, and even as recent as last week, she included a Madonna song in her spread kindness campaign. They both supported Hillary. Why, WHY, W H Y would monsters rather look at the difference instead of their similarities? Madonna is a legend, one of the few living ones we have. She influenced Gaga and paved the way for all your other faves you put so high in a pedestal. Madonna deserves some respect. I'm not telling you to like her or her music. What I am trying to say is to at least give credit to where it is due. She is definitely blunt and abrasive at times, but she would not have survived in the industry, she would not have been able to shape the pop music culture as it is now--the very same pop culture you enjoy with its stan wars, vicarious living with your "queens", she would have failed in furthering LGBTQ rights for this generation if not for that same bluntness. Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borislshere 52,885 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, Americano25 said: Oh please. MJ wouldn't know what to do with her. He only liked young boys. Let's not forget how many he shared a bed with. I shudder to think what he did when they were asleep. (after he gave them cookies and jesus juice). Oh enough. This is getting beyond immature Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 154,749 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 7 minutes ago, LeoElectric said: @PartySick you are right our discussion has NO relevance to this topic, I'm just trying to make someone realize it's not okay to be upset with others actions but then come and do the same thing here This isn't the place for it though, that's all 🧡The blindfold's off my eyes, all I see for me is better days🧡 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano25 63 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Just now, Devyn said: Oh enough. This is getting beyond immature Who asked you? I was resonding to the MJ fan. Shut your hole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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