Merkel: Ban Burqa wherever legally possible

[Squeeshy Keety 9,935]

It's pretty simple for me. Wearing the burqa is an example of free speech (expression), and it shouldn't be outlawed. I don't like them or what they stand for, but I still respect the women who wear them, and they should in no circumstance face limitations on their rights. Some of you are really startling me, saying they don't belong in a society whose morals they don't necessarily comply with.

In no way do I see revoking women's rights as progressive. Perhaps the mindset and intentions are, but not the process of it at all 

[The Fame Joanne 5,985]

7 hours ago, ryanripley said:

sis i'm shook, i thought you was like a very liberal person but i was wrong

So you think burquas are a sign of liberalism or what? 

[The Fame Joanne 5,985]

I'm shook at the amount of burqua fans here. A liberal society doesn't need to tolerate oppression

[ryanripley 86,575]

10 minutes ago, The Fame Joanne said:

So you think burquas are a sign of liberalism or what? 

i think burqas are sexist clothing garments that were created with the sole intention of oppressing women and they should NOT be required to wear one in order to partake in islam

[The Fame Joanne 5,985]

2 minutes ago, ryanripley said:

i think burqas are sexist clothing garments that were created with the sole intention of oppressing women and they should NOT be required to wear one in order to partake in islam

I agree 

7 hours ago, Luc said:

She just wants to unite her party. If she can get gay marriage from the CSU in return it's all okay.

Uhm, why would she want gay-marriage from the CSU? She's against that herself

[simpleworldme 87]

If any of us heard it applied to our own lives:

"Tattoos are no longer allowed because they have been associated with gangs"

"Skirts are no longer allowed because they draw too much attention"

Y'all would be in uproar. By the way, these statements are 100% true,  doesn't mean they are correct. You can keep the backwards rhetoric in the past where it belongs. 

[Luc 4,776]

25 minutes ago, The Fame Joanne said:

I agree 

Uhm, why would she want gay-marriage from the CSU? She's against that herself

In politics you usually don't say what you truly believe in, or else you'll end up in a situation like Merkel did early this year. I think she might be against it too personally, but she knows that to expand to the leftist voters she needs to be more socially progressive when it comes to LGBT rights which can only be done if she pulls to the right on other things.

[Sister 9,907]

I am actually shocked at who made this statement and has this initial opinion.

[MonsterPaws 2,745]

Isn't this the second time this topic was posted?

Anyway I'll chime in with my last response:

As a Muslim myself, I 100% agree with this ruling. I personally don't like how it targets women and burqas but oh well. I just hope they are still allowed to wear it indoors or at small events, as the burqa is a cultural facet not religious, and like any culture we have to respect it (as long as it's not dangerous for society so in this case the ban is justified).

BUT if they begin banning the hijab then I'd be extremely disappointed. Even more so when women who wear hijabs get targeted as they already are.

EDIT: Also, in this case masks in public should be banned as well. The burqa is being banned for security reasons, then ban similar garments/gear as well or else this is just another case of "islamophobia" (put the ''' as burqas shouldn't be counted as a muslim requirement).

[MonsterPaws 2,745]

2 hours ago, ryanripley said:

i think burqas are sexist clothing garments that were created with the sole intention of oppressing women and they should NOT be required to wear one in order to partake in islam

They aren't required at all.

But some women choose to wear it (cultural/choice thing). And not married women, but single women who are really independent and have no reason to wear it except for their own freedom of choice.

[MonsterPaws 2,745]

9 hours ago, Reala said:

For you regressive leftists who promote the burqa, maybe this video will educate you: 

 

nnnnnn I agree that burqas can and are mostly are a symbol of oppression, like I mentioned in one of my earlier replies, some women DO in fact feel empowered by it.

Usually married muslim women wear it after orders from their husbands, but I've seen countless single women do the opposite, where they wear it when they're single and remove it when they marry. Also, the idea of women wearing burqas is losing its hold among both men and women equally (at least in the UAE). It's old fashioned now, people don't find it necessary (millenials at least).

 

[Goosey 3,017]

A revolting authoritarian, xenophobic attack on personal liberty, freedom of expression and immigrant culture disguised as a 'safety' and 'women's rights' issue.

 

Absolutely foul.

[Whispering 18,865]

6 hours ago, petedagrk said:

I wonder what would happen if America banned burqas

Considering what the next four years will look like, we might get to see what happens.   

[The Fame Joanne 5,985]

7 hours ago, Luc said:

In politics you usually don't say what you truly believe in, or else you'll end up in a situation like Merkel did early this year. I think she might be against it too personally, but she knows that to expand to the leftist voters she needs to be more socially progressive when it comes to LGBT rights which can only be done if she pulls to the right on other things.

But I'm not sure if that many (heterosexual) people even care enough about gay marriage to let it influence who they vote for. Those who do, wouldn't vote the CDU anyway. She would maybe lose more voters from the right than she would gain from the left. What could happen though is, that she has to give it to her coalition partner. Then she'd have to give sth else to the CSU (e.g. burqua ban)

[aaronyoji 2,064]

16 hours ago, Cocaine Heart said:

'Progressive' countries and the 'western values' wanting to tell women what to wear. Actually wanting to force women not to wear something they want to wear. Also it has nothing to do with Sharia Law.

The level of ignorance though.

women are coerced into wearing religious veils, don't lie to yourself. 

you know that comic that pro-burqa people post around all the time? of the woman in the bikini and the woman in the burqa both thinking to each other "wow what an oppressive society"? well its bullshit. women in western society aren't forced to walk around in a bikini all the time. its not an equal comparison. western objectification does not condone middle eastern objectification. they are both their own tangents of the same idea. there is nothing empowering about wearing a burqa. it was created to oppress women, now ask if a muslim woman feels comfortable not wearing it, and freely choosing to do so-they most likely won't. that is not freedom, or empowerment.