Melech 9,900 Posted December 6, 2016 Author Share Posted December 6, 2016 Just now, SychosSoChic said: So the this minority has no place in Western Europe or Western Culture? Burqas are not part of Western culture, no. Or any part of an extremist ideology. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,321 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 2 minutes ago, Melech said: So? What if germany doesn't impose those laws on foreigners as well? As in not make and impose a law to ban burqas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted December 6, 2016 Author Share Posted December 6, 2016 Just now, Bambino said: As in not make and impose a law to ban burqas? Not to ban burqas for people who don't live in Germany. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,321 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 3 minutes ago, Melech said: Not to ban burqas for people who don't live in Germany. That's not what your question suggested tho If Saudi Arabia doesn't impose their laws on the foreigners to dress in a certain way. Then Germany shouldn't impose laws on the foreigners either, as in not ban anything they possible want to wear. That's what I was talking about and what your question suggested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted December 6, 2016 Author Share Posted December 6, 2016 Just now, Bambino said: That's not what your question suggested tho If Saudi Arabia doesn't impose their laws on the foreigners to dress in a certain way. Then Germany shouldn't impose laws on the foreigners either, as in not ban anything they possible want to wear. That's what I was talking about and what your question suggested. I think you don't get it. There are people living in germany wearing burqas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,321 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Just now, Melech said: I think you don't get it. There are people living in germany wearing burqas. Good. Why should the right to wear what they want be taken from them? Why should Germany impose laws on these foreigners if Arab countries don't impose laws on the foreigners? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTPOPNick 3,486 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 36 minutes ago, Gohan said: ''They have no place in our society'' how discriminatory, my God... Let people express themselves. Say that to those countries who hate the western culture too please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SychosSoChic 9,995 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 1 minute ago, lego said: I had to quote parts I agree with, so this.👆 Actually lemme go back and edit that post, I didn't realize all this discriminatory mess was over less than 1% Life ain't Hollywood for any one of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted December 6, 2016 Author Share Posted December 6, 2016 3 minutes ago, Bambino said: Good. Why should the right to wear what they want be taken from them? Why should Germany impose laws on these foreigners if Arab countries don't impose laws on the foreigners? You still don't get it, so I don't think I will bother to continue discussing with you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
666 others 1,856 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 7 minutes ago, Bambino said: Good. Why should the right to wear what they want be taken from them? Why should Germany impose laws on these foreigners if Arab countries don't impose laws on the foreigners? I think Melech is talking about German citizens who wear burqa. Also, aren't all women irrespective of nationality required to wear abaya in Saudi Arabia? :holyshit: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilocorB 548 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 These kind of laws always bring the worse in people. They tried to do something similar with "la charte des valeurs québécoises" (the quebec charter of values) in the province of Quebec in Canada and it was a big mess. There was a big increase of islamophobia and muslims were even more marginalized. They say it's to "protect" the women but in the end it does the opposite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Hell yeah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Child 18,997 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 20 hours ago, Maleficent said: Good Nothing racist about it, it's just that we shouldn't condem something that is meant to undermine women, their rights, and their power. I also agree that it has no place in western culture, if they feel the need to wear it, why leave their homes? My sister wears the hijab and she feels in no way undermined, on the contrary she feels empowered by it just like some other women would feel empowered by wearing a skirt. Some women find empowerment in covering themselves and some women find empowerment in showing their bodies. There's nothing wrong with that. The only wrong thing in this is that all women shouldn't be told what to wear which is exactly happening in the world now in countries like Saudi Arabia or France or other countries. But I totally and fully understand and agree with Merkel's point. A fully veiled woman would hardly successfully integrate a Western society. ‘If religion be the cause of disunity, then irreligion is surely to be preferred.’ ‘Abdu’l-Bahá Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino 24,321 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 11 minutes ago, Melech said: You still don't get it, so I don't think I will bother to continue discussing with you. Why would you if you can't explain yourself better? 7 minutes ago, Joanne Angelina said: I think Melech is talking about German citizens who wear burqa. Also, aren't all women irrespective of nationality required to wear abaya in Saudi Arabia? He never said anything about German citizens, so I simply thought he was talking about the non citizens and well, he just "wouldn't bother continuing the discussion".. anyway. I think you're right, but after all, it's a very strict country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocaine Heart 4,768 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Ir's so amusing how the males here want to tell women what to wear. And of course it will be the white justice warriors. We going to boo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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