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Merkel: Ban Burqa wherever legally possible


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Bambino
1 minute ago, Melech said:

Then the same should go to European countries, don't you think? 

If a Muslim woman in a European country wants to keep her style, I don't see the problem with it. If a European woman wants to keep her style in an Arab country, I don't see the problem with it either. The thing with European countries is that they're making laws to ban Muslim women from keeping their styles, which is something that Arab countries don't do to non-Arab women.

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1 minute ago, SychosSoChic said:

So y'all are making all this noise over the 1%? :oprah:

Edit: LESS than 1% actually

Even if it is a minority, it is radical. 

There are also far right symbols banned. Including having in your license number: "SS"

 

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3 minutes ago, KingOfSpain said:

'They're intolerant because they hate LGBT community and they treat women like objects and I am the intolerant one because I think that's not good for my country and continent? lol

I'm not saying that they're not intolerant. I completely agree with you that religion is a blight on the face of this earth and that Middle Eastern culture and Islam is one of the worst offenders of women's rights, LGBT safety, personal freedom, etc. But fighting fire with fire is the absolute worst way to go about this. There's no better way to antagonize a group of people than by marginalizing and disenfranchising them. Education is the antithesis of religion and as people become more educated, they become more open-minded and respectful of other people's autonomy. Regardless, freedom of choice is the bedrock of a liberal democracy and people must be allowed to choose what they wear unless it poses an immediate and palpable threat. The underlying symbolism of the headscarf for the sake of modesty is subversive, yet, but it poses no immediate or palpable threat in public spaces. 

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There are so little people in Germany wearing burqas. This is such an extreme reaction to a practically non-existent problem, I almost think it's just to regain the followship of the people she lost to far-right extremists since elections are coming up soon. Like.... an estimated 300 women wear burqas compared to the German population of 80,000,000.

This is just a symbolic statement to position herself in the far-right corner.

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1 minute ago, Bambino said:

If a Muslim woman in a European country wants to keep her style, I don't see the problem with it. If a European woman wants to keep her style in an Arab country, I don't see the problem with it either. The thing with European countries is that they're making laws to ban Muslim women from keeping their styles, which is something that Arab countries don't do to non-Arab women.

Saudia arabia begs to differ. 

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1 minute ago, Supersonic said:

There are so little people in Germany wearing burqas. This is such an extreme reaction to a practically non-existent problem, I almost think it's just to regain the followship of the people she lost to far-right extremists since elections are coming up soon. Like.... an estimated 300 women wear burqas compared to the German population of 80,000,000.

This is just a symbolic statement to position herself in the far-right corner.

Depends where you live though :sis: In my city I almost see daily woman in burqa. Though my city is also one of the main quarters of radical islamism. 

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4 minutes ago, Luc said:

She's taking a very high-profile approach with this burqa banning thing, while it's really just a very small problem. If she truly cared about social cohesion and integration she would've just passed the bill in parliament while paying no extra attention to it, while focusing on the real challenges for social cohesion and integration (such as poverty and lack of social welfare).

She's blowing this small problem out of proportions and taking so many opportunities to tell this story about a non-issue, and the only possible explanation for this getting so much extra attention (from her) is that the idea of a burqa ban itself is rooted in xenophobia and islamophobia.

 

Nah, I still don't think it's islamophobia. Though I'm sure she said it because over 85%+ of Germans are against Burqa and election day is coming 

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Supersonic
Just now, Melech said:

Depends where you live though :sis: In my city I almost see daily woman in burqa. Though my city is also one of the main quarters of radical islamism. 

I live very close to a mosque and have never seen a woman wearing a burqa in real life :shrug: And whenever I got to Wiesbaden or Frankfurt all I see is headscarves at most :shrug:

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Just now, Supersonic said:

I live very close to a mosque and have never seen a woman wearing a burqa in real life :shrug: And whenever I got to Wiesbaden or Frankfurt all I see is headscarves at most :shrug:

I never said that all muslims wear burqas :rip: In Bonn we have a problem with islamic radicalism which also includes to see some woman with burqas. The majority don't wear burqas that's clear. 

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Just now, Bambino said:

The laws aren't imposed on the foreigners.

So? What if germany doesn't impose those laws on foreigners as well? :oprah:

 

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SychosSoChic
12 minutes ago, Melech said:

Even if it is a minority, it is radical. 

There are also far right symbols banned. Including having in your license number: "SS"

 

So this minority has no place in Western Europe or Western Culture? :oprah:

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16 minutes ago, SychosSoChic said:

this idea of "That has no place in western culture" is a slippery slope between genuine concern for security and straight up bigotry.

Remember, the last time Western Europe went around saying what is and isn't acceptable they started crusades, ended one of the greatest civilizations man has ever known, and colonized/enslaved a continent that is still reeling over a century down the line.

 

16 minutes ago, SychosSoChic said:

I do find it concerning how y'all are more than willing to force an entire demographic to give up their individualism and their culture, just to conform to your idea of what is "right". 

 

 

I had to quote parts I agree with, so this.👆 :poot: 

 

 

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