Born This Way the first unconventional album of 21st century

[Oriane 21,060]

In pop maybe, but I'm very doubtful.

But there are other things than pop in music, and I don't know anything about other genres or listen to them but I'm sure there are thousands of unconventional and weird things here too.

[HeartTrip 15]

Blackout says hi. Truly altered the pop landscape. So many albums that artists put out after it had blackout vibes. Imagine the impact if she had actually promoted it. 

[RodeckDanny 2,450]

Ew did someone say Kanye was a popstar?

[gagzus 15,889]

Of the current string of popstars yes, of this century perhaps not, but Born this Way was the last experimental album that was perfectly pop with strong blended genres and genius ideas imo. 

Her peers and contemporaries haven't even touched the level of quality of that album.

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[DeanWinchester 41,390]

7 hours ago, Enigma said:

That album is not really experimental. Is more of a throwback to disco.

Half of Gaga's experimental tracks are also throwbacks to 80's pop music

[PunkTheFunk 124,437]

You guys realize there is other music out there beyond Gaga, Britney, and Katy right 

[Anderson123 38,376]

Man, your posts. 

[narcoswing 1,129]

Why do little monsters feel the need to make Gaga seem like the inventor and trailblazer of everything 

[Sam Dey 1,847]

americal life by pop legend Madonna says hi

 

[Sam Dey 1,847]

14 hours ago, Bio said:

Close thread

EXACTLY

14 hours ago, Nick Gilmore said:

EWWWWW!!! LOL

 

pls grow up 

[Nick Gilmore 26]

1 minute ago, littlebitch said:

EXACTLY

pls grow up 

Nah... lol

[Didymus 34,379]

I'm sure even Gaga wouldn't agree with the idea that her music is experimental. I mean, she casually admitted that for the BTW title track she just took the regular disco chord structure, and that it was inspired by 80s legends.. The only tracks that come close to being "experimental" are Government Hooker, Americano and Bloody Mary and they still follow pretty general pop formulas outside of the admittedly more adventurous instrumentals she dressed them up with.

But to be fair, Rihanna did something very similar with Rated R (2009). The Mad House intro alone, seriously lol. That album was a massive deviation from Rihanna's earlier sound and visuals (basically a dive into a mega dark world of murder, intrigue, heavy make-up, provocative fashion and brooding instrumentals), for which she was rightfully praised by critics and public. And I'm also surprised nobody mentioned Madonna's Music (2000). It blended acoustic with electronic instruments in a very unique way, as well as showcasing multiple genres (futuristic dance, country and folk on the same album).

I'm also surprised nobody mentioned Christina Aguilera's Back to Basics (2006) which was the furthest away from mainstream pop anyone could've possibly gone: a massive throwback album to the 20s that actually merged old-school genres of that time with a modern crisp production that was heavily inspired by urban productions: another highly eclectic, bold release that was so varied a lot of critics didn't even appreciate it (esp. the second disc which literally featured full-on jazz, gospel and a dramatic organ-based orchestral album closer).

And where is Amy Winehouse? Back to Black (2006) has been heavily noted as an extremely influential record that changed the standard for female pop, pushing artists to delve deeper into emotional territory and opting for a gritty, darker vocal delivery and production, as well as bringing in new sounds inspired by jazz and soul to dress up your average pop song (an obviously massively influential trend that still continues to this day).

Where are the people mentioning Björk's Biophilia (2011)? It's the world's first app album (now featured in the permanent Museum of Modern Art collection in New York City). As said by Antonelli, one of the most powerful women in the art community: "With Biophilia [...] Björk truly innovated the way people experience music by letting them participate in performing and making the music and visuals, rather than just listening passively", an idea that obviously inspired a host of other artists, incl. Beyoncé and Gaga, to go beyond the average album package concept. And don't even give me the "she's too unknown" argument, she was literally showered with prestigious awards for that album, was included in nearly every year-end list of major music publications, was acknowledged by Apple as part of the top 5 apps of the year, and like I said, cemented herself as an innovator in one of the most famous museums for modern art in the world.

And I also don't understand why you don't credit The Fame Monster for starting the turn to a more darker, edgier feel. Like.. BTW was literally in its shadow when it comes to musical development. Nvm, just found this recent post of yours: "The only similar sounding albums were TF and TFM." You're obviously deaf and crazy and that observation concludes my activity here.

[Quark 7,098]

3 hours ago, Didymus said:

I'm sure even Gaga wouldn't agree with the idea that her music is experimental. I mean, she casually admitted that for the BTW title track she just took the regular disco chord structure, and that it was inspired by 80s legends.. The only tracks that come close to being "experimental" are Government Hooker, Americano and Bloody Mary and they still follow pretty general pop formulas outside of the admittedly more adventurous instrumentals she dressed them up with.

But to be fair, Rihanna did something very similar with Rated R (2009). The Mad House intro alone, seriously lol. That album was a massive deviation from Rihanna's earlier sound and visuals (basically a dive into a mega dark world of murder, intrigue, heavy make-up, provocative fashion and brooding instrumentals), for which she was rightfully praised by critics and public. And I'm also surprised nobody mentioned Madonna's Music (2000). It blended acoustic with electronic instruments in a very unique way, as well as showcasing multiple genres (futuristic dance, country and folk on the same album).

I'm also surprised nobody mentioned Christina Aguilera's Back to Basics (2006) which was the furthest away from mainstream pop anyone could've possibly gone: a massive throwback album to the 20s that actually merged old-school genres of that time with a modern crisp production that was heavily inspired by urban productions: another highly eclectic, bold release that was so varied a lot of critics didn't even appreciate it (esp. the second disc which literally featured full-on jazz, gospel and a dramatic organ-based orchestral album closer).

And where is Amy Winehouse? Back to Black (2006) has been heavily noted as an extremely influential record that changed the standard for female pop, pushing artists to delve deeper into emotional territory and opting for a gritty, darker vocal delivery and production, as well as bringing in new sounds inspired by jazz and soul to dress up your average pop song (an obviously massively influential trend that still continues to this day).

Where are the people mentioning Björk's Biophilia (2011)? It's the world's first app album (now featured in the permanent Museum of Modern Art collection in New York City). As said by Antonelli, one of the most powerful women in the art community: "With Biophilia [...] Björk truly innovated the way people experience music by letting them participate in performing and making the music and visuals, rather than just listening passively", an idea that obviously inspired a host of other artists, incl. Beyoncé and Gaga, to go beyond the average album package concept. And don't even give me the "she's too unknown" argument, she was literally showered with prestigious awards for that album, was included in nearly every year-end list of major music publications, was acknowledged by Apple as part of the top 5 apps of the year, and like I said, cemented herself as an innovator in one of the most famous museums for modern art in the world.

And I also don't understand why you don't credit The Fame Monster for starting the turn to a more darker, edgier feel. Like.. BTW was literally in its shadow when it comes to musical development. Nvm, just found this recent post of yours: "The only similar sounding albums were TF and TFM." You're obviously deaf and crazy and that observation concludes my activity here.

I am not wrong though. TF and TFM are the Gaga albums that sound most alike from one another. Starting with BTW, Gaga's albums were very different from its previous release. Minus a one or two songs, BTW doesn't really sound like TF/TFM, ARTPOP sounds very different from BTW, and Joanne sounds very different from ARTPOP.  Sure they are have that Gaga feel or style, but their sound are really varied. 

[Quark 7,098]

17 hours ago, A Gaga Lad said:

Half of Gaga's experimental tracks are also throwbacks to 80's pop music

Then you are not thinking of the same songs I am thinking of.