Melech 9,900 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 "AMSTERDAM, Nov 29 (Reuters) - The Dutch Parliament’s lower house voted on Tuesday to ban the wearing of face-covering clothes - such as burqas and niqabs - in some public places, making the Netherlands the latest European country to restrict garments worn by some Muslim women. The legislation, which still needs to be passed by the senate, bans the veils in settings where identifying the wearer is considered essential, such as in government buildings, on public transport, at schools and in hospitals." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dutch-parliament-votes-to-ban-hijab-and-niqab-in-some-public-spaces_us_583d984de4b0860d61166edb This is good. Burqa shouldn't be in public places due to identity reasons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 not just burqas "The rule – which will outlaw all face coverings including ski-masks and helmets and will not apply to public streets – was approved by 132 in the 150-seat house." http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/dutch-burqa-veil-ban-holland-votes-for-partial-restrictions-some-public-places-a7445656.html never trust a HuffPost article https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 I support banning all face covers that aren't for medical reasons. I don't agree with singling out the burqa and variants of it but I don't think the Netherlands are doing that from the post above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 Just now, Benji said: I support banning all face covers that aren't for medical reasons. I don't agree with singling out the burqa and variants of it but I don't think the Netherlands are doing that from the post above. it says it in the article in the op as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagadonna 10,801 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 wat een verrassing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,888 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 I don't like the idea of entire faces being covered, especially in public, but if it's your religious view, you should be free to wear what you want. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Suddenly America is more free. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano 31,061 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Horrible and discriminatory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano 31,061 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 11 minutes ago, ryanripley said: not just burqas "The rule – which will outlaw all face coverings including ski-masks and helmets and will not apply to public streets – was approved by 132 in the 150-seat house." http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/dutch-burqa-veil-ban-holland-votes-for-partial-restrictions-some-public-places-a7445656.html never trust a HuffPost article Clearly targeting burqas regardless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Just now, Americano said: Clearly targeting burqas regardless at least the people will be safer https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 9 minutes ago, FATCAT said: I don't like the idea of entire faces being covered, especially in public, but if it's your religious view, you should be free to wear what you want. 6 minutes ago, Americano said: Horrible and discriminatory You need to look at the security point of view though. It doesn't matter if it is a burqa or a clown masked. If you can't see the face or identify you can basically do what ever you want. You could stab a person and security cameras wouldn't be able to identify you because your face is not seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTSTOP 3,154 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 I will never understand this idea that image (including clothing) has anything to do with what people actually do. Do you think a terrorist will only blow herself up if she uses a burqa? Or a doctor can only perform surgery if he's not tattooed? Or a bank employee can only do his job if he shaves and wears a suit and tie? Or a man can only be masculine if he doesn't wear a dress? It's ridiculous! How about using those resources to actually control the security of the country instead of telling people what to wear or do with their bodies? IDGAF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delulu Rogers 7,664 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 This is good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, arctikstorm said: I will never understand this idea that image (including clothing) has anything to do with what people actually do. Do you think a terrorist will only blow herself up if she uses a burqa? Or a doctor can only perform surgery if he's not tattooed? Or a bank employee can only do his job if he shaves and wears a suit and tie? Or a man can only be masculine if he doesn't wear a dress? It's ridiculous! How about using those resources to actually control the security of the country instead of telling people what to wear or do with their bodies? A tattooed doctor, an unshaved bank employee or a dress wearing men all don't pose possible threats. A person who hides their face does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, arctikstorm said: I will never understand this idea that image (including clothing) has anything to do with what people actually do. Do you think a terrorist will only blow herself up if she uses a burqa? Or a doctor can only perform surgery if he's not tattooed? Or a bank employee can only do his job if he shaves and wears a suit and tie? Or a man can only be masculine if he doesn't wear a dress? It's ridiculous! How about using those resources to actually control the security of the country instead of telling people what to wear or do with their bodies? they just did, by banning face masks in public, which'll made identification much easier https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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