LuMetal 68 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 A German court on Monday ruled that a group of Islamists did not break the law in forming "sharia police" street patrols and telling people to stop drinking, gambling and listening to music. The ultra-conservative Muslim group around German Salafist convert Sven Lau sparked public outrage with their vigilante patrols in the western city of Wuppertal in 2014, but prosecutors have struggled to build a case against them. The city's district court ruled that the seven accused members of the group did not breach a ban on political uniforms when they approached people while wearing orange vests bearing the words "Sharia Police". Judges said there could only be a violation of the law - originally aimed against street movements such as the early Nazi party - if the uniforms were "suggestively militant or intimidating", a court spokesman said. In this case, they found that the vests were not threatening and noted that one witness said he thought the men were part of a bachelor party. ....... The "sharia police" members walked the streets of Wuppertal in September 2014, telling nightclub-goers to refrain from drinking alcohol and listening to music, and arcade customers not to play games for money. Lau, the organiser, is one of Germany's most controversial and best known Islamist preachers. He is currently on trial in a separate case on charges of backing "a terrorist group" fighting in Syria. So-called "sharia patrols" by sometimes violent radical young Salafists have also been seen in other European cities such as London, Copenhagen and Hamburg. http://www.thelocal.de/20161122/sharia-police-are-not-illegal-rules-german-court Upset the Established Order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul 687 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 If someone told me not to drink pahahaha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 They are a joke, but dangerous. Already can see people here defending them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Great... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuMetal 68 Posted November 23, 2016 Author Share Posted November 23, 2016 i wish we had a mock supreme court on GGD. just for fun, get an issue like this and decide whether it would fall under freedom of speech/protest rights or unlawful harassment. just to see what happens Upset the Established Order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fame Joanne 5,985 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 I bet they had tremendous success trying to stop the people from drinking alcohol I'd laugh so hard at them if they tried to come for my vodka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Hmm... An interesting conflict 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fame Joanne 5,985 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Just now, ItsTommyBitch said: Hmm... An interesting conflict If they didn't break a law you can't do much. If your mom told you to stop drinking you wouldn't put her on trial either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 1 minute ago, The Fame Joanne said: If they didn't break a law you can't do much. If your mom told you to stop drinking you wouldn't put her on trial either I really dont know enough about this to be speaking, but doesn't this set a sort of precedent people will use as evidence of "their culture/lifestyle is not compatible with our *insert country/continent*'s values!"? And won't that lead to more hate and divisiveness and less understanding? Sounds problematic at least 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naor Daniel 937 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Thank you political correctness, destroying peoples' rights Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fame Joanne 5,985 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 22 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said: I really dont know enough about this to be speaking, but doesn't this set a sort of precedent people will use as evidence of "their culture/lifestyle is not compatible with our *insert country/continent*'s values!"? Sounds problematic at least Of course. But you can't forbid people to act in line with prejudices. That would also mean that we'd have to ban the CSD bc it could enforce stereotypes about gays may sound like a strange comparison but law is neutral and not always about morale Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Ga Ga 5,671 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 If they dare tell me to stop drinking, I'll pull out my joint and blow it in their faces faster than they can say Ferrari Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
androiduser 7,438 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 what intrigues and baffles me the most is that the liberals are defending the people who fight liberal beliefs?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 28 minutes ago, The Fame Joanne said: Of course. But you can't forbid people to act in line with prejudices. That would also mean that we'd have to ban the CSD bc it could enforce stereotypes about gays may sound like a strange comparison but law is neutral and not always about morale True. That then prompts a complicated situation. What is a good way to resist what people have deemed non-compatible values with our culture (e.g. sexism, whatever) without censoring them? Is it providing incentives? positive/negative reinforcers? punishers? I'm not sure of the answer, just throwing it out there. 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Envi 765 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Eh? They don't have the right to tell what other people do, especially if it is rooted to their barbaric religion. Simply get the **** outta the country or don't mind what other people do. ♫ ♫ ♫ ♫ ♫ ♫ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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