REALITY 76,757 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, Bebe said: I'm telling you - you are arguing against a point I'm not making. I agree with what you are writing "I left that part out because ultimately your argument is "duh, **** like that is going to happen."" I mean.. that's not what you were arguing against previously, you just added that in because that's what I wrote in my reply. You're still not really addressing what my point is. "You can be a transgressive, opinionated, controversial, unsafe, etc. etc. artist without having to be an asshole and just walking out." I don't think Kanye could be the artist he is without his personality flaws. He is an opinionated person who says whatever is on his mind - when it comes to creating that lack of inhibition is great, it's what contributes to him being such a great musician, but on a personal level it can lead to him saying some BS that angers people. He has little to no respect for social conventions - that's fantastic in his work where he can push boundaries and make something trulyĀ transgressive - it's less great in real life when he goes on these giant rants. He is an ego maniac who is a little manic, when he is working that's great it means he has complete confidence and faith in his work, there is nothing holding him back and he has the courage to experiment and demand exactly what he wants - that's less great in real life when he decides he can just walk off stage after 3 songs. "look at Gaga, she's transgressive, unsafe, and definitely opinionated and controversial." Errr.... Not in the same way. I wouldn't call Gaga transgressive or unsafe in the same way I would call Kanye transgressive and unsafe. They are completely different artist - when it comes down to it though, it's Kanye's personality traits that make him the genius he is artistically. He is the classicĀ enfantĀ terriblĆ©.Ā Of course he shouldn't have been an asshole and walked off stage - There's just no point in being surprised. We all want an unsafe, unpredictable, opinionated artist - sometimes that's going to blow up in your face. Like I've said, he shouldn't off stage that's a **** move. Well, first, I read your whole first post. I left that section out because you introduced another perspective that I thought sort of negated the first part of the post.Ā Again, I can respect when he does the things that he does in his work, but doing thatĀ outsideĀ of his work, I think that's where I personally draw the line. I agree with what your saying, so I suppose there's no real reason to continue this discussion, but I do think there's a point to being surprised, because it's still a very unprofessional thing to do, and he should, in my opinion, be held accountable for some ofĀ the things he does.Ā Ā Ā šš¬š¬š”šš¶š¢, ā'š©š© š°š¢š¢ š¶š¬š² š¦š« šŖš¶ š”šÆš¢ššŖš° Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,094 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 6 hours ago, juicyjuicy said: Sorry but like, what is it about his music or artistry that people like and keep overhyping? I really don't see it. There is not one thing I like about him. What talent? Show me the receipts. Ā *Trying to find I am a God that has that incredible atmospheric production that at one point turns into heavy breathing, running and synthesised screams* http://www.metacritic.com/person/kanye-west?filter-options=music Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 The Kardashian Curse. Why does everyman than marries into that family end up crazy. How soon before they pull his body from a whóre house in Vegas? "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIghtmareElm 2,606 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 He is my favorite next to Gaga but that's just ****ed up. Ā Treat the press however you want and talk smack about any fellow celebrities but ditching a show three songs in? Screwing over thousands fans that's part of a strong and dedicated fanbase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juicyjuicy 1,985 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Bebe said: Ā *Trying to find I am a God that has that incredible atmospheric production that at one point turns into heavy breathing, running and synthesised screams* http://www.metacritic.com/person/kanye-west?filter-options=music Ā Thanks for compiling this. Unfortunately I still stand by my opinion - his music and "artistry" is just not my thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabbitHeart 795 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 18 hours ago, JamesFox said: Wasn't he late as well? It's obvious he did this as a publicity stunt but I feel for those people who saved up their money to go watch a 20 minute rant. the concert was scheduled to start at 9 and he went on at 10:25, which i kinda expected. i honestly can't see this as a publicity stunt. i'm seriously concerned for his mental health and well-being. something just didn't seem right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatelynnMarie 4,406 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 As a person he just continues to disappoint me. I don't understand how you could do that to your fans. Making them wait hours and then leaving at the beginning of your show after all those people paid money to see you. Unless there was a legitimate reason, which I am doubtful, then what the f*ck even is that?Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseBabe 837 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I just don't get why he does this? Lol. He also cancelled his show another time inĀ California earlier this month (I think) because my best friend went to it. He just randomly said, "I'm done." But he said he was going to refund everybody. Hope the same happens for these people.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Ryan 1,468 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Everyone should get a refund. Celebs have been quite asshole at tours lately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Ryan 1,468 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 18 hours ago, JustLikeHoney said: The Kardashian Curse. Why does everyman than marries into that family end up crazy. How soon before they pull his body from a whóre house in Vegas?  Kanye was crazy before.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 hour ago, BrianxRyan said: Kanye was crazy before.... I suppose they all had to be a little crazy before marrying into that family. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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