Ferrer Zorola 3,966 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 where are the lies lol jk but they sure did something to make her this pissed off, she isn't screaming at them just because LIFE IS GOOD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 5 minutes ago, Justinn said: I am not trying to justify her use of the word, but should she really be fired on the spot for it? She may have been a teacher for 5 months or 15 years we dont know that yet. But say she had been a wonderful teacher for 15 years and she was literally having the worst day of her life (we dont know what she has going on- her father could be dying of cancer as we discuss this). I just don't like this whole "1 strike you are out" deal. Maybe send her home without pay for a week or so? But it's not like she physically assaulted anyone? That's exactly what she deserved. Something like "you ungrateful little sh*ts" might get you a suspension. Using hate speech or physical assaults should be immediate termination. There are hundreds of thousands of teachers every year that are dealing with personal situations in their lives that are horrible. They manage to refrain from hate speech directed at their students and physical assault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bette Davis 12,742 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 @Justinn If a teacher yelled "disgusting ass f*ggot who will get AIDS" at a gay student, would you be in favor of them being fired immediately? Cold as ice cream, but still as sweet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlondeQueenOfGGD 25,454 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 That teacher is disgusting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,682 Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Justinn said: This very post has everything to do with racism. I do not have it all twisted. The child gets to continue their education at a different school with little consequence, but this lady will probably lose her job and struggle. Yeah she made a mistake but should she really be burned at the stake for this? If she's not fired, the school board will be rioted, vandalized, and labeled as white supremacists. So really, her fate is already decided- tell me I am wrong. She should be fired immediately and irrevocably according to most on here. What about due process and investigating the circumstances? Isnt that the very same thing ya'll cry for when people resist arrest and get shot for doing so? A CHILD IS DIFFERENT THAN A GROWN WOMAN. How difficult is that to comprehend? You are defending racism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 76,612 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 1 hour ago, YourSweet666 said: Imagine you move to America and you sit together with students of Middle Eastern origin, some of you become loud and obnoxious, irritating the teacher and he or she yells at all of you: "shut the **** up, you sand n***ers camel jokey terrorists!" It's very specific racial slur and insult, no amount of anger justifies it. You're still talking to me like I said somewhere that what she said is acceptable also that scenario would be hilarious considering me and all my acquaintances are christians 4 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: A CHILD IS DIFFERENT THAN A GROWN WOMAN. How difficult is that to comprehend? You are defending racism. Mess are you still fighting with that trumo guy chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerny 4,270 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 42 minutes ago, Ferrer Zorola said: where are the lies lol jk but they sure did something to make her this pissed off, she isn't screaming at them just because If that's the stuff that comes to your mind when you get angry, that's is saying enough already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Brave 2,072 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 29 minutes ago, Bette Davis said: @Justinn If a teacher yelled "disgusting ass f*ggot who will get AIDS" at a gay student, would you be in favor of them being fired immediately? I just think that we crucify people too much for their choice of words. And my opinion would literally remain the same regardless of this situation. If the teacher literally premeditated a racist action like "Okay class, I don't like you niggers because ya'll are just going to grow up and be shot- I can't stand the sight of you so all blacks to the back and all whites to the front" Yes. Fire. Her immediately. But a disrespectful student (which we still don't know what provoked this) was clearly under her skin. And yes training exists and so forth- so do flight simulators for pilots but it never prepares you for sudden unexpected events that calculate your pre-disposition (mood, current life events, so forth). We still don't know what was going on. I am not defending her but I have a problem with the precedent of firing people over words. But let's be specifically clear- if the student were white and wearing a Trump shirt and the teacher were black this is exactly what would be said on here: "He needs to be arrested / expelled for hate speech" There shouldn't be a set of events for race A and a set of events for race B. The school board would be forced to expel the student to prevent white supremacy labels, riots, and vandalism and protests. That's how this works. Everyone would seek justice for the teacher- even though if the rolls were reversed it would be "oh he's just a kid". "he made a mistake". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy 5,686 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Justinn said: This very post has everything to do with racism. I do not have it all twisted. The child gets to continue their education at a different school with little consequence, but this lady will probably lose her job and struggle. Yeah she made a mistake but should she really be burned at the stake for this? If she's not fired, the school board will be rioted, vandalized, and labeled as white supremacists. So really, her fate is already decided- tell me I am wrong. She should be fired immediately and irrevocably according to most on here. What about due process and investigating the circumstances? Isnt that the very same thing ya'll cry for when people resist arrest and get shot for doing so? No, she was fired because she's a racist and school boards don't accept racism nor do they want to be perceived in that light. But says a lot about you, a racist, assuming that blacks people will riot and vandalize the school if she was not fired. Place yourself in the shoes of black people. If a teacher called you the f word and she wasn't fired, wouldn't you feel like the system is paying you dust? You would feel absolutely terrible, and disenfranchised from people who are supposed to protect you. We don't know what this kid did to provoke such a reaction, and again, being the racist that you are, you are making assumptions about him and the students. Yes, the class is shook, but that's what happens when a teacher goes off in such a way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan 20,827 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 I hate when members of the LGBT don't acknowledge blatant racism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerny 4,270 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Even without the n-word she is terrible. It's just unprofessional to call your students idiots, yell at the top of your lungs and swear at them. Adding in the n-word, no excuse. I get that teens can be know-it-all asses at times, but it's the adults job to be calm about it and educate; if she felt like she couldn't do that, get a new job not call them racist names and lose your mind. There's absolutely no reason to yell. Even just the yelling sets a precedence. That's no environment to learn and flourish in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrer Zorola 3,966 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 24 minutes ago, Cerny said: If that's the stuff that comes to your mind when you get angry, that's is saying enough already. Oh, yes, I completely agree! don't get me wrong LIFE IS GOOD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, littlepotter said: You're still talking to me like I said somewhere that what she said is acceptable also that scenario would be hilarious considering me and all my acquaintances are christians Mess are you still fighting with that trumo guy I know that. Mexicans, Hindus, Sikhs, Armenians, other ME Christians are often mistaken for "evil mozzlems", because many people are that ignorant and hateful. In that scenario, you'd be targeted based on your ethnicity. I just said that, to imagine, to put yourself in their(students') shoes, since your first comment was "I'm on the teacher's side" and you gave example of what you say in anger. It's just not the same. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Brave 2,072 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 57 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said: So you think white supremacists and antisemites should be rewarded and have place in your government? That's what I'm getting from your posts. I'm just saying how I see it. It doesn't take a long time to write few posts in politics. I'm not slow. Your personal attacks are pretty lame jfyi. Who are you to label people as such when you clearly don't even understand the true concept of racism. You still did not answer my question so I'll repeat it- otherwise I'll assume you have no interest or ability to do so. I know exactly what racism is. Do you know better than me? If so why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy 5,686 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, Justinn said: I just think that we crucify people too much for their choice of words. And my opinion would literally remain the same regardless of this situation. If the teacher literally premeditated a racist action like "Okay class, I don't like you niggers because ya'll are just going to grow up and be shot- I can't stand the sight of you so all blacks to the back and all whites to the front" Yes. Fire. Her immediately. But a disrespectful student (which we still don't know what provoked this) was clearly under her skin. And yes training exists and so forth- so do flight simulators for pilots but it never prepares you for sudden unexpected events that calculate your pre-disposition (mood, current life events, so forth). We still don't know what was going on. I am not defending her but I have a problem with the precedent of firing people over words. But let's be specifically clear- if the student were white and wearing a Trump shirt and the teacher were black this is exactly what would be said on here: "He needs to be arrested / expelled for hate speech" There shouldn't be a set of events for race A and a set of events for race B. The school board would be forced to expel the student to prevent white supremacy labels, riots, and vandalism and protests. That's how this works. Everyone would seek justice for the teacher- even though if the rolls were reversed it would be "oh he's just a kid". "he made a mistake". You are truly the most disgusting member on this site. How is "broke ass niggers who will get shot" ok to you?! It is no different from how you just reworded it. I am ASTOUNDED that you even think it is feasible to justify this! You need to piss off Justin! GGD is not going to put up with you anymore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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