paul 687 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, Simon said: Well, even if UK was in it, they wouldn't need to join it. An European Army is important especially for mainland Europe How so? Please tell me how relying on other countries for your own defence a good idea or even necessary. I just feel it's very dangerous territory to enter into, and it will put a LOT of power in the hands of a small subset of people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted November 16, 2016 Author Share Posted November 16, 2016 Just now, paul said: How so? Please tell me how relying on other countries for your own defence a good idea or even necessary. I just feel it's very dangerous territory to enter into, and it will put a LOT of power in the hands of a small subset of people. EU member states are more than just "other countries" to each other. We rely on each other. Countries like the Baltic countries don't have the military to keep for example Russia away. Or Greece the military to keep Turkey away. The EU needs to act more unified and this way is a good way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fame Joanne 5,985 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, FATCAT said: We do, and I don't see Trump pulling out or not helping, but European nations shouldn't be relying on our help as their Plan A. They should always have an immediate plan that doesn't involve forces 000 miles away. The NATO has troups in Europe but yes you are I agree. But I'm not sure if a unified army is the best idea. but more cooperation is deffinitely good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 8 minutes ago, FATCAT said: You guys should just 'Merica it up over there. Unions are cool chill. I think Europe is far too diverse to just easily and fully combine into a single political entity. Not to mention they have among the most stormiest history among all continents. Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,886 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Just now, A Gaga Lad said: I think Europe is far too diverse to just easily and fully combine into a single political entity. Not to mention they have among the most stormiest history among all continents. If you guys don't figure it out, Russia will figure it out for you This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Just now, FATCAT said: If you guys don't figure it out, Russia will figure it out for you i'm not in Europe but yes, I agree. Dangerous times we live in. Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fame Joanne 5,985 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, Simon said: Well the positive side of it is that one european army would have one main coordinator to lead the missions. Yes that would be good. But as I said if they have to decide fast, if they want to participate in an operation, the parliaments of many countries would have to decide over it, which can take long time and as always in the EU the decision needs to be unanimous. Means, if Malta decides against it, the whole Union is out of military options. But after they decided to participate the plus point is, that there is one coordinator, yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bye 3,947 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 The article said this isn't because of the Trump win and yet the thread title implies this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Computer 10,980 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Trump is ruining everything. America is stronger when we protect everyone else. You would think Trump would like that. 💚💛💕❣⭕💢💢 | ⓜⓔⓡⓡⓨ ©ⓗⓡⓘⓢⓣⓜⓐⓢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Dangerous and unnecessary. Europe will continue to defend it's self (UK included, as we've always promised) without having to create a massive united army. The entire continent going to war to benefit a few countries in the union? Noooo thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Americans 14 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Yeah, let's get a international army funded by western countries which will **** up badly once and commit war crimes to innocent people like the United States of America. No, I'm not happy with this, I understand that people are scared for Donald Trump but making a new army and using millions of euros for that, which could be used for health care, education and elderly people isn't necessary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted November 16, 2016 Author Share Posted November 16, 2016 Just now, youngamericans said: Yeah, let's get a international army funded by western countries which will **** up badly once and commit war crimes to innocent people like the United States of America. No, I'm not happy with this, I understand that people are scared for Donald Trump but making a new army and using millions of euros for that, which could be used for health care, education and elderly people isn't necessary. Health care and education is pretty good in europe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatislaps 34,854 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Simon said: basically threat is coming from every side Except China, because they want to keep the business/economy going Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Americans 14 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 10 minutes ago, Simon said: Health care and education is pretty good in europe Yeah I know because I'm European myself but that isn't the point. I am trying to say that there are plenty of other things we could spend money in, instead of a army. This reminds me of the Olympic Games in Brazil. The government spent millions of dollars in brand new football stadiums while people were living in the slums in Rio de Janeiro. They could've used the money to help the people in the slums, to make their lives better, but they only cared about football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 46 minutes ago, Derpplause said: Except China, because they want to keep the business/economy going for now. They are building up their navy after all Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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