Drin Lon 7,875 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 42 minutes ago, A Gaga Lad said: I do hope however, that Gaga has learned to shield her vulnerabilities since then I think she has, but vulnerabilities are part of what makes us humans after all. Honestly I'm so happy that she is in such a better mindset now compared to when she released ARTPOP. And I don't what for her to put on fake smiles when in reality she isn't feeling ok, and so far I think she' been genuine and I'm so happy for her! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 25 minutes ago, Drin Lon said: I think she has, but vulnerabilities are part of what makes us humans after all. Honestly I'm so happy that she is in such a better mindset now compared to when she released ARTPOP. And I don't what for her to put on fake smiles when in reality she isn't feeling ok, and so far I think she' been genuine and I'm so happy for her! She has managed to use those vulnerabilities into her music, but what I meant was her meltdowns if she starts getting attacked Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 2 hours ago, Sycamore said: Yes to everything of this. OT: We are so hard on Gaga because we love her and want the best for her. We push her to her boundaries, as we do to ourselves. And she lives for hard work and hard work is her passion. but thats just it... people here don't want the best for Gaga.... they want a repeat of what they considered the best Gaga for themselves. Gaga is doing what is best for Gaga, and she has different ideas of what success means to her than what pop fans currently have for her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
memomemome 1,478 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 I honestly understand that gaga has been through a lot. Criticisms etc. I read the interview somewhere (maybe one of you remember?) that gaga herself feeling overwhelmed after the career take off so suddenly. With the three first album delivered so much, I know it's really hard to top. Gaga is human after all. She ain't a Barbie that you just want her to change outfits everytime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUKKIE 457 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 The thing i hv noticed is that we are hard on her but we always support her neva the less and wedo deffend her from vultures (other stans,outsiders etc). I thnk Gaga tries too hard to push the envelope. If she made simple music like Ariana Grande sp. And give us that relatable sound to reach out to the simple minded GP, and then release a short EP ala TFM as a alter ego dark gosh messier ginius of art piece ,she wud slay. But she really need to make relatable music like everyone else asap and do more collabs. Shes not above every artist. Like really.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliviaRodrigoStan 4,721 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 I used to have rudiculous expectations from her up until ARTPOP. During ARTPOP, I realized that it wasn't her, it was me. I was like... never completely satisfied with her live performances. Eventually I realized that her performances were not only ok, but also always above the average. I just had unrealistic expectations. Now, I just focus on the music, and I appreciate the extras as what they are: extras. This fanbase took for granted all the amazing things and hard work she made during Born This Way and ARTPOP. Now with Joanne we're experiencing a reality check HEART OF EVER-FROST Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denys 848 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 3 hours ago, Benji said: I don't want to drag Gaga but there's a lot of artists (including pop) that are releasing better material and doing stronger performances than her now, for me anyway. I still love her but I can't pretend that I'm enjoying her work as much anymore. You are not enjoying her work because it's not as huge as it use to be, now u literally just listen to her on ur phone no where else, people aren't talking about her so u are not really excited but literally no one except beyonce is putting out good performances but ofcos that can be subjective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, Denys said: You are not enjoying her work because it's not as huge as it use to be, now u literally just listen to her on ur phone no where else, people aren't talking about her so u are not really excited but literally no one except beyonce is putting out good performances but ofcos that can be subjective. Not really. The other artists that I like or impress me are mostly nowhere near as big as Gaga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denys 848 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 I think the problem with Gaga as a brand is her team made her put out almost everything she's got, yes she likes dressing weird but they made it a daily thing instead of an event so people got tired instead of anticipative. I don't know how this may sound but the sad truth is she tilted towards the lgbt too early in her career. The moment she took that firm stand she started becoming polarizing and her causal fans who don't like the lgbt started questioning their love for her and even her music. Another thing is exposure to new audience, Gaga has never really ft on anybody's album unlike someone Rihanna. If she did more ft she world capture a few more listeners. This may not sit well with u guys but Gaga herself needs to step away from her work and look at it from outside if she wants to rise again. I mean limited involvement, like we all know she can write but I want her to not write for a while just sing and let people create her performance a la Rihanna, that's if she wants to be ontop again. She needs to learn more artistic compromise too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denys 848 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 9 minutes ago, Benji said: Not really. The other artists that I like or impress me are mostly nowhere near as big as Gaga. Or maybe u liked depth with this other artist and Gaga served u depthless bops but now she isn't serving bops so u are bore I guess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochestrMonstr 2,548 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 2 hours ago, ChrisC said: We hold her to a high standard because of her early years. And i get she doesn't want to work as hard now and stuff but she has completely done a 360 and now seems to neglect her album, singles, videos and slacking in every way. To think she abandoned the ARTPOP era in like november and took a 3 year break...she hasn't even delivered close to what other average or basic singers have Lol ok, I'll take the perfection that is Joanne, and you can keep the crap from "other average or basic singers". Sounds like a fair trade to me . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delulu Rogers 7,088 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 5 hours ago, RochestrMonstr said: Lol ok, I'll take the perfection that is Joanne, and you can keep the crap from "other average or basic singers". Sounds like a fair trade to me . I wasn't talking about music quality. I love joanne. I was talking more about her promo, visuals, costumes and attitude Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaTheExplorer 3,053 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 20 hours ago, Denys said: Or maybe u liked depth with this other artist and Gaga served u depthless bops but now she isn't serving bops so u are bore I guess I know this is not my business but, can you please stop of talking like you are on his mind? he has his own opinion is that a crime? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaTheExplorer 3,053 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 I think the biggest problem here is that Gaga is her own worst enemy. She used to have a big big team working for her, on outfits, performances, videos, etc. but she had problems with all of them, her manager, her producers, her video directors, her choreographer etc... now her team is way less strong, and she is basically doing all by herself, and that's not going really well on her pop career Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Neon Demon 115 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 lol we are loving Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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