Whispering 18,865 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 27 minutes ago, Kanye West said: If he's there illegally, he's there illegally. If he wants to be a US citizen then do it the legal way. Even fight for citizenship. Breaking the law is the absolute most moronic way to live in the US. Get some common sense. The laws are in place for a reason. People are using common sense. The laws have changed from year to year over the past two decades. The Dreamers act has been on the cusp of being passed for a while now, which would give HOMODRAKE, and others like him a direct oath to citizenship. This issue simply isn't as black and white as you are trying to make it be. Republicans and Democrats have considered and pushed forth legislation for different forms of amnesty for decades. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJH219 4,448 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Good for him! If you want to move to the USA, do it the LEGAL way. Its time we stop catering to people who break our laws in this country. Already liking what I'm hearing from him. Enough of this mess. 'All our dreams can come true IF we have the courage to pursue them'-Walt Disney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,654 Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, Benji said: My new stance is don't deport them but implement a new system for the future. Crack down on people illegally entering but allow more people from down south to claim asylum so they can escape danger if they need to. You went from Republican to Democrat real quick LOL. What you just stated is essentially the Democratic platform. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Just now, Morphine Prince said: You went from Republican to Democrat real quick LOL. What you just states is essentially the Democratic platform. I did state from the start of this discussion (may have been in an earlier thread though lol) that the main concern for me are the people that are migrating. I was under the impression the US used the same system as the UK, mainly because it makes the most sense. I guess the US is even weirder than I already thought Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: You went from Republican to Democrat real quick LOL. What you just stated is essentially the Democratic platform. Lol, this is true. And really, the majority of people in the US feel the same. As a nation of immigrants, (many whose parents of grandparents were the first generation in the US), the majority of people simply don't have the heart to deport people who are trying to be good members of society and who just want to protect their children. Even many Republicans have a hard time advocating for this when it comes down to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,654 Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 6 minutes ago, Benji said: I did state from the start of this discussion (may have been in an earlier thread though lol) that the main concern for me are the people that are migrating. I was under the impression the US used the same system as the UK, mainly because it makes the most sense. I guess the US is even weirder than I already thought Truth is there are so many undocumented immigrants that it will be impossible to deport them all. It makes sense to assimilate them into the country because there's no other realistic option. Deporting the dangerous criminals and legalizing and giving more rights to other illegal ones seems to be the only way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 12 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Truth is there are so many undocumented immigrants that it will be impossible to deport them all. It makes sense to assimilate them into the country because there's no other realistic option. Deporting the dangerous criminals and legalizing and giving more rights to other illegal ones seems to be the only way. Agreed. Personally, if I was to bizarrely become the president of the states ( long shot ) I would try and start chasing up all illegal immigrants. Grant those that are second, third generation etc citizenship automatically since they were born in the country. Those that are first generation need to be reviewed, any illegal activity that isn't petty like possession of drugs for personal use or minor disturbance charges gets them deported, the rest are given citizenship. Any immediate family of original illegal immigrants that are separated can be reunited either in the US or their place of origin. For future immigrants, they must enter LEGALLY or be fleeing trouble that threatens their safety, they can claim asylum. ^ Once a system like that is in place, I will support Trump's "wall" to stop people entering illegally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,654 Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Benji said: Agreed. Personally, if I was to bizarrely become the president of the states ( long shot ) I would try and start chasing up all illegal immigrants. Grant those that are second, third generation etc citizenship automatically since they were born in the country. Those that are first generation need to be reviewed, any illegal activity that isn't petty like possession of drugs for personal use or minor disturbance charges gets them deported, the rest are given citizenship. Any immediate family of original illegal immigrants that are separated can be reunited either in the US or their place of origin. For future immigrants, they must enter LEGALLY or be fleeing trouble that threatens their safety, they can claim asylum. ^ Once a system like that is in place, I will support Trump's "wall" to stop people entering illegally. Well, those born here are citizens. If your parenrs are both illegal and you are born here you are still a citizen. The issue is those that were brought ilegally when they were babies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
venusfly 17,885 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Not a Trump supporter but illegal immigrants do need deportation or if they're long term (10+ years in US) need aid in gaining citizenship (that would be cheaper than deporting), you can't enter a country illegally and then be up in arms when you're escorted out, you just can't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 9 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Well, those born here are citizens. If your parenrs are both illegal and you are born here you are still a citizen. The issue is those that were brought ilegally when they were babies. Hmmm I'd be torn on that situation. Maybe grant anyone who were under the age of 14 when they illegally entered full citizenship if they have been living in the country for 10+ years. It may not be perfect but there needs to be some form of cut off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LePetitGAGABLover 21,234 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Im disgusted at the comments made towards @HOMODRAKE If anything, if you ever come to live in New Mexico, marry me so you can get your papers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,654 Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 10 minutes ago, Benji said: Hmmm I'd be torn on that situation. Maybe grant anyone who were under the age of 14 when they illegally entered full citizenship if they have been living in the country for 10+ years. It may not be perfect but there needs to be some form of cut off. Things such as the DREAM Act have tried to address issues pertaining to this but sadly might be reversed by Trump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
therian 254 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 if theyre criminals then i support it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie 1,218 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 well, i guess every country would LOOOVE to take the "bad" people out, specially if they r not there legally, i just hope is really the BAD people Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Trump 3,508 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 I've been saying all along, and getting reported for it, that enforcing our immigration policy is not racist... (He's not even enforcing it against illegal immigrants as a whole... He's doing it against those with BAD criminal records. What is so hard to understand about this!???) Ma ma pa pa pa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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