Hillary set to receive the second most votes ever in US history

[reysus 1,064]

5 minutes ago, Gagaloo92 said:

Totally!

 

They set the Electoral college because they didn't actually want the people getting to choose. The whole "it gives small towns a voice" argument is a joke. 

How is it a "joke"? Without it, NYC, Chicago, and LA would control the entire country. The smaller states are just as important to this country (they are Americans too) and their struggles need to be addressed. Trust me, I live in Illinois, and the fact that politicians only care about Chicago has created huge division and inequality in the state. I don't want that to happen to the whole country.

[The Child 18,997]

5 minutes ago, Delusional Aura said:

See you at the inauguration little protesters. I'm looking forward to see what plays out on Jan 20th 2017.

Me too. I hope he gets shot.

Oops did I just say that?

I guess my ass is gonna get

[SlaeUrAnus 16,111]

2 minutes ago, reysus said:

How is it a "joke"? Without it, NYC, Chicago, and LA would control the entire country. The smaller states are just as important to this country (they are Americans too) and their struggles need to be addressed. Trust me, I live in Illinois, and the fact that politicians only care about Chicago has created huge division and inequality in the state. I don't want that to happen to the whole country.

Good point.

That is like saying Edinburgh decides the whole of Scotland and London decides the whole of England. You'll be surprised how divided the North and South of England are when it comes to differentiation of opinions on politics.

[Spyro 8,438]

What about highest percentage?  I mean yeah... there's gonna be more votes for each candidate than say 30-60 years ago because we have more voters today...

[DrewStevens 5,249]

10 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

I understand the frustration as I hate that he won too BUT 

we cannot ignore that Trump won 30 states, and she won 20. 

We cannot ignore most counties in the nation voted Trump. 

We cannot ignore that the election was so close percentage wise. 

We cannot ignore she lost in states that were supposed to be blue. 

I'm not ignoring it, I'm rebuking the system that tells you to care about colors and swing states instead of actual people.

We can't ignore the majority of Americans who went out and voted picked Hillary and not Trump.

[zexion_armando 241]

Oh we're still on this? He isn't even inaugerated yet. Can't wait for the impeachment scream after Jan.

[Spyro 8,438]

Hillary is getting 47.7% of the vote (so far) while Obama got 52.9% in 2012...  I don't see how this statistic in the title is relevant.

[DrewStevens 5,249]

3 minutes ago, reysus said:

How is it a "joke"? Without it, NYC, Chicago, and LA would control the entire country. The smaller states are just as important to this country (they are Americans too) and their struggles need to be addressed. Trust me, I live in Illinois, and the fact that politicians only care about Chicago has created huge division and inequality in the state. I don't want that to happen to the whole country.

That's a myth.

First of all those are cities, not states.

And the college system still gives more power to NY, California and Illinois than other states. 

[DrewStevens 5,249]

1 minute ago, Spyro said:

Hillary is getting 47.7% of the vote (so far) while Obama got 52.9% in 2012...  I don't see how this statistic in the title is relevant.

Those are percentages, not votes.

[Morphine Prince 109,969]

4 minutes ago, Luc said:

Indeed. That's why HRC's plans make the gap between the poor and the rich smaller, and that's why HRC's plans make poorer people just as capable to go to good schools as anyone else, and that's why HRC's plans make sure that future recessions caused by Wall Street, big banks and investors are evaded. We can't ignore how DJT used the poor people to his advantage and left them in the cold as soon as he won. The working class voted against their interests because they were lied to and made to believe impossible things. That's the issue here.

 

and the amount of states won is meaningless because all small states go Republican. I mean, states are just that: states. California could be split up in 50 states and could then say 'we cant ignore that HRC won 70 states to Trump's 30!'. It's meaningless.

The number of states is not meaningless. The country is called the United STATES. It's also impossible to win the electoral college without the majority of the states. (Correct me if I'm wrong on this) 

As for your 1st paragraph I agree. 

Statistically, the EC has "failed the people" 4/45 times, or ~9% of the time. 

[HOTNebraskaGuy 19,547]

20 minutes ago, DrewStevens said:

But the electoral college voting system gives voice to small towns and it makes it fair because the founding fathers made this for Americans... oh wait it doesn't make sense at all, it's  C R A P 

You wouldn't be complaining if it were Hillary that won only because of the electoral college. 

[Spyro 8,438]

Just now, DrewStevens said:

Those are percentages, not votes.

I don't see how it's relevant since OF COURSE candidates today will receive more votes than candidates in the past, because the number of eligible voters grows every year.  Of course Clinton will get more votes than Kennedy and Nixon..  Hell, even Obama in 2008 got more votes than Nixon & Kennedy COMBINED backed in 1960, but Obama only got 53% (which would've been close or over 100% in 1960) of the vote.  I focused on percentage because the what % of voters voted for a candidate is much more important than the number of votes.  The number will grow in the future but percentages are always based on how much of your candidate is of good quality.  Sorry if this doesn't make sense.  

[DrewStevens 5,249]

Just now, HOTNGaga said:

You wouldn't be complaining if it were Hillary that won only because of the electoral college. 

You wouldn't know that because Hillary won the popular vote too just like Obama and Al Gore 

[reysus 1,064]

1 minute ago, DrewStevens said:

That's a myth.

First of all those are cities, not states.

And the college system still gives more power to NY, California and Illinois than other states. 

I'm pretty sure I know the difference between cities and states, lol.

And I know how the electoral college works, too. Everyone knows that CA, NY, and TX are heavyweights, and they should be. But the fact is that the US has a very skewed population distribution and people living on the coasts and in big cities have much different concerns than people living in middle America. The electoral college system forces politicians to care about the very real problems facing those Americans as well. Without it, they would endlessly pander to the urban areas to get the most votes.

[HOTNebraskaGuy 19,547]

Just now, DrewStevens said:

You wouldn't know that because Hillary won the popular vote too just like Obama and Al Gore 

But it's easy to speculate.