Media manipulation

[DrewStevens 5,249]

2 hours ago, JustLikeHoney said:

Um...do you know what a socialist is? Bernie Sanders is a socialist. That's not a bad thing but its perceived as a bad thing thanks to South American socialist dictators. The perception of the word socialist is at fault. 

Trump used inflammatory language through his campaign. He knew exactly how the media was going to react to it. He manipulated the media to his whim then blamed the media for everything. Thats like hitting a glass with a bat then blaming the glass for breaking.

Lets try to end this thing where the media is to blame. They are not to blame. Donald Trump knows exactly what he did

Hillary's health was questioned by the media thanks to Donald, her sanity was questioned by the media thanks to Donald, Hillary not separating from her husband was questioned by the media thanks to Donald and the week before the election during early voting Comey sent a letter to congress, which then surprise surprise was nothing. The media was manipulated heavily by Trump and the Republican Party. 

Lets try to stop these threads where the media is to blame for everything.

They are not to blame. Donald Trump knows exactly what he did and the Republicans know exactly what they did. 

For God sakes this Hillary found out about Comey's letter to the Republicans on the NEWS! Just like the rest of America. If there was truly something on those emails wouldn't they have notified her first. Wake up people everyone got played by the Republicans in this election.

And now Anonymous is supposedly on Trump's side. What a load of sh!t. 

 

I know what socialist means but I meant that the media used "socialist" as a bad thing to tarnish his reputation. 

[RichAssPiss 5,033]

For Trump to bemoan LGBTQ rights under Obama is a joke when he ran under an anti-LGBTQ Republican party platform. Obama has been the most progressive president yet for LGBTQ rights and Trump has promised to set us back. The Orlando shooting was a hate crime perpretated by an American citizen whose bigotry is reflected in many aspects of American culture, including the Republican party. Hypocrite.

P.S.. The edited video is far from misleading. He is proposing a ban based upon religion, and that is dangerous. If he wanted to be less sensational and appeal less to racism he should just focus on ties to terror, not drive home a correlation between Islam and terror that fuels hate crimes targeting so many patriotic Muslim Americans in this country.

[The Surrealist 27,470]

4 hours ago, Whispering said:

No way am I going to watch an eight minute video of Trump talking. 

What's the point here? That out of the millions of minutes we have of him speaking, not all of them are racist and hateful? 

Everybody is searching for excuses and pretend he didn't say those horrible racist and misogynistic things. It is denial. His agenda his hateful ans regressive.

[Luxe Ford 3,481]

Media has been unusually biased during this campaign, but it's not a case of manipulation. They played up the image of Tr**p as clown, which obviously didn't bite on the voters. The biggest problem is the war-monging in the campaign. No one was debating the real issues. I doubt the majority of voters really knew exactly what they were voting on. 

My 0.02$ (if I had any money that is).

[Luc 4,776]

he IS that bad. The 'liberal' media is also a lot more objective than the 'conservative' media. At least CNN and MSNBC are based on facts and provide a balanced view, while Fox is basically the GOP's permanent campaign.

 

that's probably also due to the fact that the Democrats base their proposals on facts, while the Republicans base their proposals on lies and non-proven assumptions. That's why right-winged people see the media as biased, even though it's basically just about basing it on the facts vs basing it on lies.

 

What would the 'liberal' media have to do for you to consider them objective? You want them to lie about climate change, about racism, about how the economy works, about how immigration works, about how science works, about how well ObamaCare worked and how well the economy did the past 7 years? Is that what you see as objective?  'liberal' media is inherently objective because it's based on the facts while right-wing media is inherently subjective because it's based on (very far-fetched) opinions rather than facts.

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

 

10 hours ago, DrewStevens said:

I know what socialist means but I meant that the media used "socialist" as a bad thing to tarnish his reputation. 

I agree with that. They used the perception of the word against him. 

[lego 44,165]

I already cringed at inaccuracies and xenophobia in first minute. And this is suppose to make him look better? 

 

 

 

14 hours ago, Bebe said:

Okay, but lets also look at the full facts:

Seddique Mir Mateen, father of Orlando gunman Omar Mateen, once campaigned in the United States for current Afghan President Ashraf Ghani -- seen as a moderate leader -- who appeared on his program in 2014. This wasn't a problem with the screening process. Seddique was already in the country supporting moderate leaders.

But as CBS reported:

"But since then Seddique has turned against Ghani in both his broadcasts and numerous videos posted to a Facebook account.

In his Facebook videos, the alleged gunman's father has often appeared wearing a military uniform and declaring himself the leader of a "transitional revolutionary government" of Afghanistan. He claims to have his own intelligence agency and close ties to the U.S. Congress -- assets he says he will use to subvert Pakistani influence and take control of Afghanistan.

After watching his videos -- none of which were recorded in English -- CBS News' Ahmad Mukhtar said it seemed possible that Seddique Mateen is delusional. "He thinks he runs a government in exile and will soon take the power in Kabul in a revolution," notes Mukhtar."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/orlando-shooting-omar-mateen-father-seddique-mateen-taliban-god-punish-gays/

It seems very obvious that he is suffering from delusions. The man thinks he has his own intelligence agency and thinks he has inside men in congress. He thinks he runs a government and will take power in Kabul after a revolution. 

This wasn't a problem with the U.S screening him and failing to see he was radical, this was a problem with Seddique once being moderate but having severe mental health issues.

Trump lies to his supporters and gives them the 'facts' without context. This wasn't a failure of the screening process, Seddique was let in as a moderate.

Beyond that, Thousands upon thousands of immigrants don't share the same 'thought process' of a 'savage killer'. That's awful to say even in full context. It's dangerous, divisive rhetoric that only serves to create and nurture fear over muslim immigrants. A statement like that is indefensible, even in it's full context it is horrifying.

The screening process in the US is already very thorough and extreme. It can't get any more intense, I mean this 4 minute video by John Oliver is funny and informative:

Hillary Clinton doesn't want radical islamists to enter the country, she doesn't want people in who want to kill gays and enslave women. That's not what the Obama administration is doing either! By saying that, he is spreading fear and racist, islamophobic  rhetoric against muslim immigrants! Again, in context what he is saying is still f*cking awful and indefensible!

So I agree, question the sources, do your research, and listen for context. If you do you will see that Trump is an awful racist.

 

 

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