Politics in the last 24 Hours

[LibraLove 1,281]

50 minutes ago, PartySick said:

@LibraLove Read this. Crude but honest.

I already proudly voted for Hillary on the 24th. People pushing the absurd idea that she's "the lesser of two evils" has probably been the most annoying thing I've read in these last few months. They are night and day.

She's an experienced politician with pragmatic and progressive plans that's had a couple hiccups. No major issues at all. Trump? Totally different story, but that horse has been beaten into a pulp and I'm tired of listing his depressing record of ignorance, corruption, dishonesty, and hate.

Not to mention their policies (or lack there of) are totally different. We're not just voting for personalities here, we're voting for plans. Ideas. How anyone could be for Trump and call themselves a liberal is beyond me. A man who is for privatizing everything from space exploration to healthcare and education. A man who wants to strip LGBTQ people of our rights. A man whose idea of immigration reform is to build a wall. A man who thinks we'll beat ISIS by "going after their families", "bombing the hell out of them", and suspending immigration of Muslims to the U.S. It's ridiculous.

We don't need a loose cannon that panders to the lowest of the low. We need steady hands and a decisive, experienced mind with progressive ideals to boot.

This is not a defense or support of Trump, to be clear, I detest them both and voted for neither: Hillary is no angel. She has referred to herself in leaked audio as "occupying center-left of center-right" in a private elitist fundraiser, which effectively means she is not a Progressive. Hillary promoted DOMA and DADT and Bill Clinton signed them both (and both still feel that way and cant admit they're wrong, as per leaked internal emails). Hillary is for cuts to and privatization of Social Security and shifting that to benefit Wall Street (as per leaked internal emails and speech transcripts). Hillary supports "bombing the hell of them" through drone strikes in several Muslim nations "to go after ISIS" which has killed family members, women and children, of terrorists and not-terrorists, which eventually radicalizes these impacted people and creates more terrorists and terrorism. She knew that Saudi Arabia and Qatar were providing "clandestine military and financial aid to ISIL," yet still worked to move weaponry into the hands of those nations, who in turn gave them to these radical Jihadists (as per leaked internal emails). She even said on the campaign trail that she could "compromise on abortion" with the Republicans. Hillary Clinton, as Senator, voted to build a border barrier because "they didn't call it a wall." 

She is no better than him and you are being duped to think otherwise. They are still the same, corrupt evil, just different brands and expressions of that evil. She may come with nice shiny policy "ideas," but that's all they are - ideas. She has a "private and public position" (as per leaked internal emails/speech transcripts) on issues and what you're seeing right now is the latter. Trump is a wolf, but at least we can see what he is. Hillary is a "wolf in sheep's clothing," and that is just as scary. Voting for the "lesser evil" is still voting for evil.

[KleinGa 18,177]

8 hours ago, LibraLove said:

This is not a defense or support of Trump, to be clear, I detest them both and voted for neither: Hillary is no angel. She has referred to herself in leaked audio as "occupying center-left of center-right" in a private elitist fundraiser, which effectively means she is not a Progressive. Hillary promoted DOMA and DADT and Bill Clinton signed them both (and both still feel that way and cant admit they're wrong, as per leaked internal emails). Hillary is for cuts to and privatization of Social Security and shifting that to benefit Wall Street (as per leaked internal emails and speech transcripts). Hillary supports "bombing the hell of them" through drone strikes in several Muslim nations "to go after ISIS" which has killed family members, women and children, of terrorists and not-terrorists, which eventually radicalizes these impacted people and creates more terrorists and terrorism. She knew that Saudi Arabia and Qatar were providing "clandestine military and financial aid to ISIL," yet still worked to move weaponry into the hands of those nations, who in turn gave them to these radical Jihadists (as per leaked internal emails). She even said on the campaign trail that she could "compromise on abortion" with the Republicans. Hillary Clinton, as Senator, voted to build a border barrier because "they didn't call it a wall." 

She is no better than him and you are being duped to think otherwise. They are still the same, corrupt evil, just different brands and expressions of that evil. She may come with nice shiny policy "ideas," but that's all they are - ideas. She has a "private and public position" (as per leaked internal emails/speech transcripts) on issues and what you're seeing right now is the latter. Trump is a wolf, but at least we can see what he is. Hillary is a "wolf in sheep's clothing," and that is just as scary. Voting for the "lesser evil" is still voting for evil.

 

 

 

Have a look at Hillary's policies: https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/

Look at what she will do for our country. Look at her 30 years commitment, all that she has accomplished. Then come back and tell me that she's no different from Trump. 

If you can't look at one of the most comprehensive policy details and still say that she's not ready, then you're only seeing her flaws and not seeing her highs.

I'd rather cast my vote for a person who has been ready to take up the role of President from the day one over someone who you can bait with a tweet. (and I did cast my vote for HER, why? because I'm not prone to idiotic conspiracy theories and this whole history thing. Half of the people that are so against her and are ready to bring up these "facts" about her just read that on one website. They know nothing about her history or her commitments. Go back to the time in which she was fighting for America, see America at that time and then you'd understand why she had to do what she had to do. Sure, she's made mistakes, but that's what I admire about her, she made those mistakes, she owned them and she learned from them. Those mistakes are the same ones that make her even more ready to take a seat in the oval office)