GagzDonkeyD 1,293 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Just now, Adakam said: The problem with JB is that he wants people to take him seriously but without acting serious himself, he gets himself in scandals, he has cut pretty much any contact with his fans, and does it in a very rude way, and his obsession with showing off his body (posting butt naked pictures and then complaining when people invade his privacy with leaked nudes) its just impossible to take him seriously and respect him as a person if he doesnt respect his public, you dont need to have a normal life to learn that 90% of the things hes done are wrong The worst part is that hes destroying the 2nd chance the world gave him with his new music after everything that happened before, he gained a lot of respect and hes losing it again and hes gonna regret it someday, i just hope he is able to handle it and doesnt fall into depression (probably already there) or worse This Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sipthistea 21,099 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 He's not made for this business. I couldn't do that either. I mean, there's a lack of respect nowadays towards the artist. I admire Gaga for being able to go through this insane situation. It's chaos! Respect your artists. Give them their space. It's not like they're machines that accomplish our desires. Have empathy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
display name 4,360 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 7 minutes ago, Adakam said: The problem with JB is that he wants people to take him seriously but without acting serious himself, he gets himself in scandals, he has cut pretty much any contact with his fans, and does it in a very rude way, and his obsession with showing off his body (posting butt naked pictures and then complaining when people invade his privacy with leaked nudes) its just impossible to take him seriously and respect him as a person if he doesnt respect his public, you dont need to have a normal life to learn that 90% of the things hes done are wrong The worst part is that hes destroying the 2nd chance the world gave him with his new music after everything that happened before, he gained a lot of respect and hes losing it again and hes gonna regret it someday, i just hope he is able to handle it and doesnt fall into depression (probably already there) or worse Agreed on all points. Is he any worse than the average person in his age group? Not really, but at the same time, he hasn't done anything to make himself respectable. He only reaches people because of his image and status. That sounds harsh, but he needs to accept that the people who go to see his shows aren't there to have a nice little chat. He's no more than an idol for young girls to worship. He needs to learn how to cope with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malazam 15,710 Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share Posted October 28, 2016 32 minutes ago, ZarinStar said: I'm not excusing his behaviour, but I do think he need to get help. He doesn't seem to care about anything, and it's unfortunate. Same another shot before we kiss the other side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 76,571 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 41 minutes ago, Evan Peters said: him having mental issues/problems in his life doesn't give him a free pass to be an asshole that's like telling an abuser that you understand why they abuse someone or why a cheater cheats. He needs help, and condoning his actions is not it. Honestly, working in hollywood is probably one of the worse careers to have I don't think you can compare Justin's actions with an abuser or cheater, those are very different instances, especially the former. 𝔊𝔬𝔬𝔡𝔟𝔶𝔢, ℑ'𝔩𝔩 𝔰𝔢𝔢 𝔶𝔬𝔲 𝔦𝔫 𝔪𝔶 𝔡𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔪𝔰 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagaisitalian 3,573 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Bieber fed off of these little girls since the beginning. He has always been the bratty kid. Just watch his concert film, he clearly disrespects his team and his fans. This whole "I want to be taken seriously" thing is such a gimmick, and I can't at y'all comparing him to Gaga. Gaga is a true artist, not just a little boy with a squeaky voice that jumps on EDM tracks to get a quick #1. Of course Gaga wants her fans to see her as more of a human being and have more real conversations with her, but she also wants them to have a good time and scream at her concerts. Bieber on the other hand is just a little, snotty brat. Show me a time where he tried giving a fan a chance to have a real conversation with him. He even cancelled his meet and greets (which were probably rushed by him/his team to begin with.) And now he's at his concerts telling people to stop screaming? What??? They are at a concert, listening to music they like by an artist that they love (I don't know why) and you want them to shut up so you can act mature? I don't think so. He has tried this before. After that "Journals" album, he had his quick "breakown" and "rise" to get the GP back on his side. They got back on his side for a bit and now he's doing it again. You have to realize he KNOWS every move of his is calculated so he knows it will benefit him to act "sad" for a bit to get the girls to feel for him. If he hates fame so much, he needs to stop making music. Because we can all agree he makes music for the money/fame and not to express himself. /career Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battle 4 Ur Life 6,713 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 he's a shallow douche who will never be a real artist because he has no idea what real life is like. and he doesn't care. his fanbase is the worst but he is not mature enough to understand how it is the way it is. (his premature oversexualized image) love yourself makes me nauseous. I despise him. “Fantastic, chic, freak, slay.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexxx 5,631 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 If he didn't want to be "idolised" then he could easily just get out of the public eye really isn't that hard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProdigyARTPOP 3,909 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 3 hours ago, LDR said: Bieber fed off of these little girls since the beginning. He has always been the bratty kid. Just watch his concert film, he clearly disrespects his team and his fans. This whole "I want to be taken seriously" thing is such a gimmick, and I can't at y'all comparing him to Gaga. Gaga is a true artist, not just a little boy with a squeaky voice that jumps on EDM tracks to get a quick #1. Of course Gaga wants her fans to see her as more of a human being and have more real conversations with her, but she also wants them to have a good time and scream at her concerts. Bieber on the other hand is just a little, snotty brat. Show me a time where he tried giving a fan a chance to have a real conversation with him. He even cancelled his meet and greets (which were probably rushed by him/his team to begin with.) And now he's at his concerts telling people to stop screaming? What??? They are at a concert, listening to music they like by an artist that they love (I don't know why) and you want them to shut up so you can act mature? I don't think so. He has tried this before. After that "Journals" album, he had his quick "breakown" and "rise" to get the GP back on his side. They got back on his side for a bit and now he's doing it again. You have to realize he KNOWS every move of his is calculated so he knows it will benefit him to act "sad" for a bit to get the girls to feel for him. If he hates fame so much, he needs to stop making music. Because we can all agree he makes music for the money/fame and not to express himself. /career You don't know anything about this , first of all, he can be compared you Gaga because they are both "larger than life" artists, and he can actually sing, he's released acoustic albums + he plays the guitar and piano, so yes he's an ARTIST, the fact that he was marketed as a "young pop artist" for little teens and girls doesn't mean he wants to continue on that path , many of you forget that this isn't 2008-2010 anymore, he's no longer the little kid who sang "Baby". 2. The whole post-Journals image fiasco wasn't a "gimmick" it was him getting into problems and hanging around the wrong sort of crowd, falling influence to drugs, and the fame. 3. Like a person in this thread before me said, HAVE EMPATHY, many of you forget these artist/celebrities are actual people, they go through things just like we do, you don't know if behind the scenes, Justin feels depressed, or alone? Just because a person has money, fame, and all this material wealth, it doesn't mean they are happy or satisfied, having a lavish lifestyle doesn't mean everything is picture perfect. 4. Just because a person acts out, it doesn't mean they hate fame, it means they want to be listened to and taken seriously, when Gaga got vomited on, does it mean she wanted attention? No we called it "art" so why when Justin tells his fans to be quiet or to not always ask for a selfie, we call him a b**** or a douche? Yet, Gaga has also said many times that she doesn't always want you to ask her for a selfie, she wants to have an authentic connection/conversation with you. my point is they just wanna be treated like actual HUMANS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagas love 722 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 5 hours ago, Garr said: Gaga's gone through the same thing. He wants to be seen/heard as a person, not worshipped or idolized. Tough luck really. yup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagas love 722 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 5 hours ago, Shawn Lee said: This I think hes just gay and cant be who he really is. hes always so angry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei 61,110 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 "Her fans" is that shade? to me he is still a douche with overrated basic music. I hated how everyone was like: oh his music is sooooo much better now but he still can't freaking sing and how would it not be better than the previous crap? No surprise Musery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioIsOurs 13,876 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 And he was like totally fine when the Purpose era started. He must have gone through too much stress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KURUSHITOVSKA 20,451 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 What are we doing to our idols? No! What has him been doing for the past 3 or 4 years? He's lost everything. ¿Qué currículum tiene ésta tarántula? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poker 3,713 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 He is an asshole. He disrespects people and expects people to respect him? He needs help asap and stop with the drugs, its gonna fry his brain. And to think he still has a tour ahead. Same goes with Selena. Gosh, what's with these weak ass "artist" nowadays Imagine if they had to go trough what Madonna had to go or even Michael. Kindness rules all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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