rivingtonrebels 245 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 On 10/27/2016 at 8:50 PM, james19709 said: That would literally be Jo-Ayne tho. Mess. how does man and anne not rhyme... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RepentingSinner 2,642 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Well, it sounds like Jo-Ahn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
display name 4,360 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 On 10/27/2016 at 4:55 PM, james19709 said: Even tho it's always stupid things like "John Wayne sounds like Joanne" like no it clearly doesn't. Why reach for bullshit things when you could talk ab the actual lyrics/song? Mess. Actually, I think there is something to be said of the similarities between Joanne and John Wayne, despite the many differences that are there as well. "Joanne" is told from her father's POV about how he felt, losing his sister. Gaga said that "John Wayne" is, in part, about her father; it's about how Gaga chases wild men, looking for love that she didn't feel she got from her dad (so Freudian ). Straight-up daddy issues. Anyway to me, the two tracks together show Joe losing Joanne and Gaga losing Joe (in a way). I think it's meant to be a play on words, but it isn't something that just jumps out at the listener. Gaga talked about "John Wayne" in a radio interview not long ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipper 13,077 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I always though A-YO was supposed to mean: A ho = a$shole or hey hoe = hey ***** Which one, we can never tell. 🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶🩶 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P 2,336 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I've been singing "...cast my spell with a wand you'll never tell" Do you hear that? It's poison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnlikelyStan 306 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Honestly the only one I think is intentional is the "girl where do you think you're goanne" Young, wild, American... Lookin' to be something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James19709 456 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 1 hour ago, rivingtonrebels said: how does man and anne not rhyme... What? It's about pronounciation. "Which Joanne you'll never tell" is just obvious stupidity, and if it was in John Wayne it would have to be like "I crave a real wild man, I'm strung out on JOE-AYN. Which isn't how Joanne is pronounced lol. It's just obviously not true, it's not even a smart suggestion, Gaga isn't this basic/dumb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rivingtonrebels 245 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 8 minutes ago, james19709 said: What? It's about pronounciation. "Which Joanne you'll never tell" is just obvious stupidity, and if it was in John Wayne it would have to be like "I crave a real wild man, I'm strung out on JOE-AYN. Which isn't how Joanne is pronounced lol. It's just obviously not true, it's not even a smart suggestion, Gaga isn't this basic/dumb. it was a joke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James19709 456 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Just now, rivingtonrebels said: it was a joke Can't tell online tbh, a lot of people are really stupid every now and again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
babs 5,093 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 I totally thought it said "joanne" for like a solid 4 days before I read the official lyrics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterofFame 1,785 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 10 hours ago, Garr said: Actually, I think there is something to be said of the similarities between Joanne and John Wayne, despite the many differences that are there as well. "Joanne" is told from her father's POV about how he felt, losing his sister. Gaga said that "John Wayne" is, in part, about her father; it's about how Gaga chases wild men, looking for love that she didn't feel she got from her dad (so Freudian ). Straight-up daddy issues. Anyway to me, the two tracks together show Joe losing Joanne and Gaga losing Joe (in a way). I think it's meant to be a play on words, but it isn't something that just jumps out at the listener. Gaga talked about "John Wayne" in a radio interview not long ago. Wait, really? I took another look at the lyrics and I can't see a single thing implying any of that about her father. Did she mention all of that in an interview? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
display name 4,360 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 16 minutes ago, MonsterofFame said: Wait, really? I took another look at the lyrics and I can't see a single thing implying any of that about her father. Did she mention all of that in an interview? I'll look for it right now. She said she was thinking about why she's always chasing after danger in her life, and she said she realized it was because of her father, and she repeated that she has dad issues. I'mma look. She talks about it a bit in this one. http://ladygaganow.co/lady-gaga-interviewed-on-95-5-plj-radio The most important bit's in the Beats 1 interview though. Start at about 27:21. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
display name 4,360 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 16 minutes ago, MonsterofFame said: Wait, really? I took another look at the lyrics and I can't see a single thing implying any of that about her father. Did she mention all of that in an interview? Found them. Edited my previous post to include them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterofFame 1,785 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 12 hours ago, Garr said: I'll look for it right now. She said she was thinking about why she's always chasing after danger in her life, and she said she realized it was because of her father, and she repeated that she has dad issues. I'mma look. She talks about it a bit in this one. http://ladygaganow.co/lady-gaga-interviewed-on-95-5-plj-radio The most important bit's in the Beats 1 interview though. Start at about 27:21. Thanks! I watched that interview before, but I didn't make the Freudian connection.. that's pretty deep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
display name 4,360 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, MonsterofFame said: Thanks! I watched that interview before, but I didn't make the Freudian connection.. that's pretty deep. Np. As much as I don't love "John Wayne," I love how much thought was put into it, even though it's a rather simple song at first listen. Got a degree in psych, so I unfortunately make those connections way too damn quickly. I hate Freud's work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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