CatelynnMarie 4,406 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Doesn't NYT sh*t on everything anyway? F*ck em. They can suck my d*ck which is 100% bigger than theirs. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 7 minutes ago, SKANK said: You guys are a god damn mess, emailing people when you don't get a review that suits your liking. This isn't a hit piece, it's a fair critic of her art - and a huge part of her art is how she presents herself to the world. She isn't just a song writer, she is a performance artist who has made her personality and personal presentation a center piece to her art. The music on this album is fantastic, I adore it, but I think they hit the nail on the head with this line; “Joanne,” serves as an over correction to the garish eccentricity of “ARTPOP." I could see your point if he didn't outright trash her and everything she has done. But he barley discusses the new music, and a review should be about the music above all else. If he wanted to analyze Gaga as an artist then he can do that in an article addressing that and I wouldn't have a problem with it even if I don't agree with it. But bottom line, this is an ALBUM REVIEW about Joanne and most of the article completely loses that focus and is instead an OPINION piece on how he views her entire career and project as an artist. So you're wrong. Moreover, this man is not neutral AT ALL and clearly does not like Gaga, which is problematic when a review should be done by someone who does not have a blatant bias. I am not arguing that they should be licking Gaga's a$$ and giving her full stars. There should be criticism, but this was not constructive criticism. This was crossing the line to becoming slander. You can review an album you are not a big fan of without being a complete prick about it and trashing the artist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
styleyourvision 606 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, MonsterMum said: Yes A-YO totally screams Britney you idiot. Besides anyone labeling Hey Girl as Motown is dismissed. Idk if anything A-YO screams Chuck Berry, Little Richard, and Buddy Holly - the original rock gods. DEF not a cheap Britney knock-off or a ****ing Glee song Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyboi12 2,125 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 1 minute ago, Knife said: The reality is that this album won't be a critical or commercial success. This is the path Gaga walks now - the one you were all clamoring for because it's "authentic" and "personal." That being said, do I agree that Gaga should call up The Chainsmokers? Hell no. lady gaga will be fine... even some of the greatest artist of all time had to take a backseat. my favorite prince is a good example of a true musician that stood up for what he believed in musically. Gaga is the same way, she will be alright! just don't be surprised if all of the album reviews are in the 60ds; because those guys tend to feed off of each other to save time on reviewing stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
destinyofself 1,006 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Why have all of these reviews been so personal to her, it's down right disrespectful, sick of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga Medicine 265 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 42 minutes ago, styleyourvision said: This is an article the author of the NYT Joanne review wrote in 2010 about Gaga'a impact, including a feminist impact, on pop music: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/25/arts/music/25feminism.html Just one example from the article that shows how this writer's own past words work against the "arguments" in his Joanne review: "[Lady Gaga's] fingerprints are all over the revised images of Christina Aguilera, Rihanna, Katy Perry and Beyoncé; and on new artists like Kesha, Janelle Monáe and Nicki Minaj. These performers might not cite Lady Gaga as a direct influence, but the work she’s done since her 2008 debut album, “The Fame” (Cherrytree/Kon Live/Streamline/Interscope), has nudged loose conventional boundaries. The space for women in pop to try out new aesthetic identities hasn’t been this vast in some time. This new feminism is more about the opportunity to make choices than about any specific choice itself. And it’s freeing, this expansion of musical liberation into spaces visual as well as sonic, instinctual as well as intellectual, performed as well as lived." I can't take him seriously when just a few years ago he was touting Gaga for making her own choices about her identity and pushing the boundaries of the music industry. Oh, and by his own implied defnition of feminism in this article, his Joanne review is arguably anti-feminist. He must be a hurted Gaga stan Like a lot of people on this site cause she is not doing her typical sound. Love turned into hate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTPOPSYCHOLOGY 6,270 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 As much as everybody drag the monsters for saying that they crave RedOne on a Gaga album again, it seems like those albums are the only one that the critics/GP like. I think they're looking at her too much as a pop artist and not stepping back and looking at her whole aesthetic and what she's bringing to the music scene right now. I mean the NYT comparing her to Chainsmokers is the perfect example. They and a lot of other people are expecting her to put out another Just Dance or Bad Romance that had good writing (Romance much better lyrically than Dance) and now that they're faced with an album that explores several different genres, they aren't viewing that as the accomplishment it should be, instead saying that it doesn't feel coherent. It's frustrating because all of us on this site have devoted our lives to appreciating the nuances of Gaga and acknowledging her evolution but the critics don't realize that. I believe that a good album is more than the composition, production, theme, and vocals. A good album is stepping back, looking at that particular artists discography and seeing how they have changed over the years and seem to push themselves in a different musical direction and head space Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swan Heart 7,382 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Honestly, pretty much all of us seem to love the album, let's focus on that. Gaga and her team should be really proud, they created a great record. They say it's the last song. They don't know us, you see. It's only the last song if we let it be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petty 9,412 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 **** this! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, Joschua said: Naw. He did a straight up hatchet job by giving her a 40% and then wandered through the desert to find a logical reason to rate it that low and miserably failed to back up his point. Honestly the words he wrote aren't that bad... It's more so that they're an opinion piece on her for 80% of the article. It doesn't even give his opinion von each track. Reviews are opinion pieces. This was hardly the worst review Gaga has been given. 1 minute ago, Gagaloo92 said: I could see your point if he didn't outright trash her and everything she has done. But he barley discusses the new music, and a review should be about the music above all else. If he wanted to analyze Gaga as an artist then he can do that in an article addressing that and I wouldn't have a problem with it even if I don't agree with it. But bottom line, this is an ALBUM REVIEW about Joanne and most of the article completely loses that focus and is instead an OPINION piece on how he views her entire career and project as an artist. So you're wrong. Moreover, this man is not neutral AT ALL and clearly does not like Gaga, which is problematic when a review should be done by someone who does not have a blatant bias. I am not arguing that they should be licking Gaga's a$$ and giving her full stars. There should be criticism, but this was not constructive criticism. This was crossing the line to becoming slander. You can review an album you are not a big fan of without being a complete prick about it and trashing the artist. Monsters went from their fav being universally praised to universally panned and they don't know how to deal with it. Emailing the editors of the NYT because Lady Gaga got a slightly bad review is mortifying. Calling an art critic "abhorrent" for having the gall to call a flop a flop and focus as much on her image as her music is ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef 61,598 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 1 minute ago, Swan Heart said: Honestly, pretty much all of us seem to love the album, let's focus on that. Gaga and her team should be really proud, they created a great record. Sadly she's in an industry where that is determined by its critical reception Signature loading… 👹🖤 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomethingMore 1,701 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Lord... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef 61,598 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 1 minute ago, SKANK said: Monsters went from their fav being universally praised If only Signature loading… 👹🖤 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades 27,980 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 They can suck my big c..k. But even that would be a blessing for those fags. They are so thirsty for that Chainsmoker fag who will drag Gaga at any cost. Pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robo Ga 15,299 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, SKANK said: Monsters went from their fav being universally praised to universally panned and they don't know how to deal with it. Emailing the editors of the NYT because Lady Gaga got a slightly bad review is mortifying. Calling an art critic "abhorrent" for having the gall to call a flop a flop and focus as much on her image as her music is ridiculous. Did you even READ the review? It is totally unfair and unprofessional, and he deserves to be dragged to pits of hell. BYE 🤖⚡️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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