Free My Mind 2,209 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 she'll never not make music that's all that matters to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockets 1,807 Posted October 12, 2016 Author Share Posted October 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, Periphery said: Plenty of artists that had consecutive 'flop' albums are still making music and pushing their work. I don't think the success of Joanne will influence much in that regard. Hell, it might push her to even greater artistic peaks if she no longer feels the burden of being commercially successful. I actually thought about that, too. Like her carrer turning into something similar to Bjork's (don't get me wrong, I know they're completely different artists) who has never had massive commercial success despite critical acclaim, and has always pushed herself to do very interesting, never repetitive work. I would love that. The only girl I've ever loved was born with roses in her eyes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
666 others 1,856 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 1 hour ago, A Gaga Lad said: But what if it's also a critical flop? " I stand here waiting for you to bang the gong To crash the critic saying, "Is it right or is it wrong?" " :holyshit: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Periphery 15 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Just now, RocketNumber8 said: I actually thought about that, too. Like her carrer turning into something similar to Bjork's (don't get me wrong, I know they're completely different artists) who has never had massive commercial success despite critical acclaim, and has always pushed herself to do very interesting, never repetitive work. I would love that. Exactly, and with the talent Gaga has, imagine what she could do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13VictorC 1,102 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 That's why Gaga has a RedOne album ready just in case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
666 others 1,856 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 1 hour ago, JourneyToAvalon said: To be honest, I kind of WANT it to flop. For her sake. If she's getting massive hits and becomes the IT girl again.. she won't be treated the way she wants everyone to treat her... like an actual human being. It won't erase her fame but make it even worse. I've been thinking of the sentence, "Lady Gaga needs to die", in a sense that the whole shebang needs to stop for her to be happy. I know she herself is to blame for creating the persona and for creating this image that makes her look like an otherworldly goddess.. but she's getting the short end of the stick now (or has grown out of her old life) and she hates it. She isn't suited for this lifestyle so the only way she can have a normal one the way she wants to.. is to ERASE her fame and just disappear. She doesn't need to be "saved", she doesn't need any more critical acclaim, she doesn't need fair weather fans, she has enough money. All she needs is her friends, family and the ability to make music.. even if it's just at her own home. Bottom line.. she's been talking about erasing her fame, she's been saying "call me Joanne" because I believe she doesn't want to be Lady Gaga anymore and she wants to be just one of us so to achieve that.. her career needs to disappear. Simple. P.S this isn't a well thought out post at all and might not really make sense to some.. it's just what I've been feeling for the last couple of days. If there's anything I overlooked then I'm sorry. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It makes a lot of sense to me. In fact I have similar thoughts regarding Joanne's commercial performance. Gaga has had an immense positive influence on my life, in return I want her to be truly happy. :holyshit: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastNight 5,935 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 It will be critically acclaimed and it will do a great deal of good for her reputation as an artist and musician. I think most of us thought that because of all the wonderful things she's done over the past couple of years, and all the praise she's got, that she would come back to a really 'successful' era (I'm referring to chart success here because she is so impressively successful in so many other, more important ways) but it's clear that pop is a stand alone thing. Her last pop era didn't go down so well so she is on an uphill battle with the new record. Joanne won't be her return to world domination, but it sure will be the start of moving towards something like that again I think. My point is that she can do all those other projects but for a lot of people the proof is in the (pop) pudding and they'll need to hear it first. I don't know how it is for other artists but her new pop eras seem to start how the previous one ended. The Fame put her on the map and she changed the game, which lead to TFM being so successful and took her to new highs, BTW started out fantastic, but came to an end due to controversy and overhype, ARTPOP was moderately 'successful' in the beginning but was overhyped from the get go and then fizzled out and so Joanne started out on the back leg and although I felt like PI got a lot of praise (outside the fan base) people weren't overly interested in it. But the important point is that she is back on the upwards part of the roller-coaster. I love PI but I think it was picked as the lead because they knew it probably wouldn't smash, that it could have been a hit but if it wasn't it wouldn't be that surprising. I mean that because it's so different to other pop music at the moment, it's not so shocking or damaging to her reputation that it wasn't a hit. If she had released a trendy, dance bop and it still didn't smash (which I don't think it would have done) then that would appear to be much worse. I could be wrong, but hearing that they're treating it as a debut record (which I love because it does feel like the second act of her career) then it kind of makes sense to me, So I think the Joanne era will be a massively positive thing for her pop career, even if it doesn't necessarily chart high at first. I always remember what that Grape Juice guy said about the project taking time to unfold and become clear over the next few weeks, and now that the era has begun, that statement feels right. It's actually genius for her to go from dive bars, to radio, then to TV, and then to the SUPERBOWL in one era, it ties the whole thing together and makes the whole album campaign and release a giant performance piece itself. For clarity I'd like to say that I'm referring to a very specific type of success in this post. I think she is phenomenally successful and anyone who says that a Grammy Award winning, Golden Globe Winning, Oscar nominee, platinum selling, globe touring, singer, songwriter, actress on the world's stage is unsuccessful because her song didn't go top 10 is ridiculous and should not be listened to. I'd also like to say that I am beyond hyped for Joanne and even though this is a long post about it's success, I'm more interested in my own enjoyment of it and Gaga's personal happiness with it than anything else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aley Eggs 116 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Hur bein en endie ertist es en eggscuse tew flop harder end stil bI consefered sucessfoul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano 31,061 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 i think you mean when, not if. lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockets 1,807 Posted October 12, 2016 Author Share Posted October 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, Americano said: i think you mean when, not if. lol It may not seem like it from my post but I'm actually still quite optimistic about Joanne The only girl I've ever loved was born with roses in her eyes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagafy 296 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 3 hours ago, RocketNumber8 said: Now before you come for me, I'm not here for the charts and I'll stand by Gaga no matter what as long as the music is good (I love the snippets) BUT If Joanne turns out to be a huge, complete flop what will it do to her carreer? I mean ARTPOP wasn't really a flop, but it's kind of seen like that by many cause it didn't sell as much as her previous efforts. Will 2 unsuccessful eras in a row (I'm not counting C2C) be too much for her carreer? I'm kind of worried cause even tho I don't care too much about charts and number 1s, I still don't want her to fade away or to be considered as an "has been" I know, the album is not even out yet, the SB is coming on February and many thing could happen so this is just speculation. What do you guys think? As i see, there are two possibilities: 1) Nothing, if she is still the same Gaga as we fell in love during the early years, she will come back stronger with next release, as she wouldn't give a damn and she would make great music as in TF->BTW kind of qualities. 2) She feels sad, broken, and would just make statements like "I dun care basic Pop anymore", "i love country and rock" to cover her failures. And continues to make music for us, we would just get basic and personal kind of musics like the flop-joanne (if it's a flop) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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