"Bill Clinton is a rapist!" yelled at Bill Clinton event

[Leaf 2,429]

Bill Clinton is an actual rapist.

[Dominic 11,922]

2 hours ago, Fay said:

I already replied to the person who told me to worry about my own country so go read that as it applies to you too.

Bill does not have one woman accusing him of rape, it is several women but what about how people treated Kesha's accusation? they did believe her and treated a man as a rapist without proof. As to you defending what Hilary did to a child victim of molestation, I have no comment as there is nothing to say but be shocked and disgusted!

People are bias about these things depending on who they prefer personally. Branding Bill Clinton a rapist on here (like they did with Luke) would go against their pro-Hillary agenda. Hypocrisy really but that's the game of politics. Sometimes you have to be blind to certain things for a better end result and in this case that would be Hillary winning.   

[Whispering 18,865]

12 minutes ago, Fay said:

But the judge couldnt not force her to take the case because shes a lawyer and not a public defender right? couldnt she not hide the evidence and did not attack and falsely accuse the girl? she can do that if she wanted specially when she knows the truth.

The judge assigned Hillary the case, so Hillary became a Public Defender at that time. She asked to get out of it and the judge declined her request. 

No, a lawyer cannot "hide evidence" unless they want to get disbarred. 

Hillary didn't know if the guy was guilty, as he never confessed to her. Even if she did, it wouldn't have mattered, as she still woukd have had to defend him to the very best of her ability. The guy ended up pleading guilty to get a plea bargain, which puts this case in category of the 97% of criminal cases in the US that are settled in a plea bargain. 

Also, the rules for how cases with minors were handled were different back in 1975 than they are now with rape shield laws. 

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1 minute ago, Whispering said:

The judge assigned Hillary the case, so Hillary became a Public Defender at that time. She asked to get out of it and the judge declined her request. 

No, a lawyer cannot "hide evidence" unless they want to get disbarred. 

Hillary didn't know if the guy was guilty, as he never confessed to her. Even if she did, it wouldn't have mattered, as she still woukd have had to defend him to the very best of her ability. The guy ended up pleading guilty to get a plea bargain, which puts this case in category of the 97% of criminal cases in the US that are settled in a plea bargain. 

Also, the rules for how cases with minors were handled were different back in 1975 than they are now with rape shield laws. 

Why did she become a public defender when he gave her the case? it meant she chose it right? Hilary said she was forced in her latest book but she also said this quote in another older interview: "But in the Free Beacon’s newly released recordings, Clinton says she took on the case as a "favor.""

She did hide the evidence of the childs underwear where they wanted to test it but she said they lost it.. Criminal defense attorneys have a duty to zealously represent their clients and guard their confidences. However, they also have a duty to the court not to present evidence that they know is false, fraudulent, or perjured, whether it's coming from the defendant or a witness whom the lawyer knows intends to lie.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Fay said:

Why did she become a public defender when he gave her the case? it meant she chose it right? Hilary said she was forced in her latest book but she also said this quote in another older interview: "But in the Free Beacon’s newly released recordings, Clinton says she took on the case as a "favor.""

She did hide the evidence of the childs underwear where they wanted to test it but she said they lost it.. Criminal defense attorneys have a duty to zealously represent their clients and guard their confidences. However, they also have a duty to the court not to present evidence that they know is false, fraudulent, or perjured, whether it's coming from the defendant or a witness whom the lawyer knows intends to lie.

You simply don't know what you're talking about. The way the other user worded it is misleading; she did not "become a public defender" when the case came up, she was already working for a public defenders office. That was her job. Instead of working for a large firm for more money, she was working as public defender representing those who can't afford counsel. Also, it is absolutely true that she wished to be off the case, but the judge wasn't sympathetic. 

The 6th Amendment of the United States Constitution guarantees everyone the right to a speedy trial, and it also guarantees that anyone who cannot afford a lawyer must be appointed a public lawyer. I don't know what part of this you're not understanding. Most lawyers would never want to represent an alleged rapist, especially one they believe is guilty, but the fact is that SOMEONE HAS TO DO IT BECAUSE IT IS THE DEFENDANT'S CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT.

Again, as I said, she could have been making tons more money working at a big firm, but she was working for the public. She has a lifetime in public service under her belt, and just because she was given one rape case doesn't negate that. Fortunately, the laws have changed now, and Hillary's defendant probably wouldn't have gotten off today. The fact that he wasn't convicted has more to do with the Justice System and the laws at the time than it has to do with Hillary.

Your other statements about the case and "hiding evidence" simply are not true. She did nothing wrong, but conspiracy theorists can keep believing whatever they like.

As far as the Bill rape comments, well, there was only 1 woman, unlike what you said. I don't know if she's telling the truth or not. She might be, or at the very least she might believe she was raped. Maybe she was. But comparing this to the Cosby situation is completely ludicrous. And the point is, Hillary isn't the one accused of rape. Yes, she was unkind to some of his mistresses, but she was also a woman who was dealing with being cheated on in the public eye. I'd be pissed too if my marriage was in danger. She's also specifically wished Monica well at this point, and I think she means it. Get over it

 

[Bebe 17,289]

9 minutes ago, Fay said:

Why did she become a public defender when he gave her the case? it meant she chose it right? Hilary said she was forced in her latest book but she also said this quote in another older interview: "But in the Free Beacon’s newly released recordings, Clinton says she took on the case as a "favor.""

She did hide the evidence of the childs underwear where they wanted to test it but she said they lost it.. Criminal defense attorneys have a duty to zealously represent their clients and guard their confidences. However, they also have a duty to the court not to present evidence that they know is false, fraudulent, or perjured, whether it's coming from the defendant or a witness whom the lawyer knows intends to lie.

You have a few of the facts wrong.

Read this:

http://www.vox.com/2016/10/9/13221548/kathy-shelton-hillary-clinton-rapist-rape-trump

It's a nice summary.

Hillary didn't want to defend him, she was obligated to defend him.

" Taylor requested that he have a female defense lawyer to represent him. The prosecuting attorney in the case recommended Clinton, then a young lawyer named Hillary Rodham; the presiding judge requested that she take on Taylor as a client.

Clinton didn’t want the case, she wrote in her 2003 memoir Living History. “I told Mahlon (Gibson, who was prosecuting the case) I really didn’t feel comfortable taking on such a client, but Mahlon gently reminded me that I couldn’t very well refuse the judge’s request.” Gibson, for his part, has backed this up: “Hillary told me she didn’t want to take that case, she made that very clear,” he told Newsday.

But the Constitution requires a right to adequate council, and she had been called to serve. So she defended Taylor. And she defended him aggressively."

Hillary also wasn't the person who lost/hid evidence. She was the defender, the prosecution lost that evidence when they accidently threw away the underwear.

"But the biggest development in the case was the result of the prosecution’s error. The main piece of DNA evidence, a scrap from pair of underwear with semen on it, was accidentally thrown away by the crime lab.

Clinton told Reed that she called a New York forensics expert, who agreed to testify that what remained of the underwear didn’t include enough semen to test — and then went back to the prosecutor and showed him the forensics expert’s Who’s Who listing."

 

 

[Whispering 18,865]

Thanks guys! I was getting tired of trying to explain it all! You two can take over!  

@Bebe @stvn

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38 minutes ago, Leaf said:

Bill Clinton is an actual rapist.

And so is Trump!  He has a case against him from a 13 yr old girl...   

 

[Bebe 17,289]

34 minutes ago, Leaf said:

Bill Clinton is an actual rapist.

Apparently so is Donald Trump, so are you also outraged about him?

He has also been accused of rape, just like Bill Clinton, by multiple women. Trump has been accused of sexual assault by even more women. 

According to legal documents, Trump has been accused of raping a 13-year-old child, raping his ex-wife, and attempting to rape a former business associate. I mean the account by Ivana Trump... Pulling at her hair, ripping off her clothes, leaving her crying in the closet....

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3 hours ago, Andres Miller said:

They did speak out years ago. Hillary silenced every single one of them. *insert Madonna the "look it up" gif here*  Hill aint no Saint and we shouldn't give her a pass because she is the lesser evil of the two.

Then we should stop analysing the candidates by their personal lives and start thinking about what matters, their policies, and trump would destroy the country, hes not even on the same page with his VP 1 month before the election, and watching his debate he has no plans at all, he just talks about his dream results but with no idea on how to get there, Hillary has a clear plan for everything and doesnt evade any policy question.

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10 minutes ago, stvn said:

You simply don't know what you're talking about. The way the other user worded it is misleading; she did not "become a public defender" when the case came up, she was already working for a public defenders office. That was her job. Instead of working for a large firm for more money, she was working as public defender representing those who can't afford counsel. Also, it is absolutely true that she wished to be off the case, but the judge wasn't sympathetic. 

The 6th Amendment of the United States Constitution guarantees everyone the right to a speedy trial, and it also guarantees that anyone who cannot afford a lawyer must be appointed a public lawyer. I don't know what part of this you're not understanding. Most lawyers would never want to represent an alleged rapist, especially one they believe is guilty, but the fact is that SOMEONE HAS TO DO IT BECAUSE IT IS THE DEFENDANT'S CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT.

Again, as I said, she could have been making tons more money working at a big firm, but she was working for the public. She has a lifetime in public service under her belt, and just because she was given one rape case doesn't negate that. Fortunately, the laws have changed now, and Hillary's defendant probably wouldn't have gotten off today. The fact that he wasn't convicted has more to do with the Justice System and the laws at the time than it has to do with Hillary.

Your other statements about the case and "hiding evidence" simply are not true. She did nothing wrong, but conspiracy theorists can keep believing whatever they like.

As far as the Bill rape comments, well, there was only 1 woman, unlike what you said. I don't know if she's telling the truth or not. She might be, or at the very least she might believe she was raped. Maybe she was. But comparing this to the Cosby situation is completely ludicrous. And the point is, Hillary isn't the one accused of rape. Yes, she was unkind to some of his mistresses, but she was also a woman who was dealing with being cheated on in the public eye. I'd be pissed too if my marriage was in danger. She's also specifically wished Monica well at this point, and I think she means it. Get over it

 

Ok but as I explained before and I will explain this for the last time, she did not have to attack the girl and falsely accuse her of seeking older men and making false rape claims and accuse her of being mentally ill! she does not have evidence that the child is mentally ill yet she calls her a mentally ill child infront of her.

About Bill, he does have alot of rape accusations against him its more than 11, Trump had 4 of them in the debate and if you dont want to compare that to Cosby, we can compare it to keshas case where everyone accused Dr Luke of being a rapist based on one person accusation.

Yes Hilary is not accused of rape but with hilary winning, you will be putting a rapist in the white house with alot of power.. and Hilary did get involved and attacked these women using the FBI that threatened them with scary illegal things. If you were being cheated in the public eye, deal with your husband and not with the women specially that you and your husband have huge power over them even sexual power thats why its illegal. You saying you would do the same says alot about you and not about weather what hilary did was wrong or right. Her wishing Monica well and you feeling it was real is invalid.

Lastly, getting more and profit is not a bad thing so her working for public service doesnt say anything specially when she is known for stealing money but lets not get into that.

[Leaf 2,429]

1 hour ago, Bebe said:

http://fusion.net/story/328522/donald-trump-accused-rape-sexual-assault/

It would be nice if these people where just as outraged at Trump's alleged sexual assaults and rapes.

"According to documents, Trump has denied the allegations, stating “These allegations are not only categorically false, but disgusting at the highest level and clearly framed to solicit media attention or, perhaps, are simply politically motivated. There is absolutely no merit to these allegations. Period.”

Editor’s Note: This story was originally published on July 21, 2016, hours before Donald Trump accepted the Republican nomination for president in Cleveland."

[Leaf 2,429]

 

 

[Bebe 17,289]

Just now, Leaf said:

"According to documents, Trump has denied the allegations, stating “These allegations are not only categorically false, but disgusting at the highest level and clearly framed to solicit media attention or, perhaps, are simply politically motivated. There is absolutely no merit to these allegations. Period.”

Editor’s Note: This story was originally published on July 21, 2016, hours before Donald Trump accepted the Republican nomination for president in Cleveland."

Of course Trump has denied the allegations!  So has Bill Clinton!

You are outraged at Bill Clinton, and I'm not even trying to say you shouldn't be, but are you also outraged at Trump who has the same sort of evidence against him?

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Fay said:

Ok but as I explained before and I will explain this for the last time, she did not have to attack the girl and falsely accuse her of seeking older men and making false rape claims and accuse her of being mentally ill! she does not have evidence that the child is mentally ill yet she calls her a mentally ill child infront of her.

About Bill, he does have alot of rape accusations against him its more than 11, Trump had 4 of them in the debate and if you dont want to compare that to Cosby, we can compare it to keshas case where everyone accused Dr Luke of being a rapist based on one person accusation.

Yes Hilary is not accused of rape but with hilary winning, you will be putting a rapist in the white house with alot of power.. and Hilary did get involved and attacked these women using the FBI that threatened them with scary illegal things. If you were being cheated in the public eye, deal with your husband and not with the women specially that you and your husband have huge power over them even sexual power thats why its illegal. You saying you would do the same says alot about you and not about weather what hilary did was wrong or right. Her wishing Monica well and you feeling it was real is invalid.

Lastly, getting more and profit is not a bad thing so her working for public service doesnt say anything specially when she is known for stealing money but lets not get into that.

She was doing her job as a lawyer, which you still don't understand. It is her duty to give him the best defense he can get. He was guilty, but if he hadn't been he would deserve that same benefit of the doubt. You don't get how things work, you just really don't. 

I'm not a fan of the way Bill treats women, but that isn't the point here.

"Getting more profit is not a bad thing," you say. Okay, you still don't understand. She did a lot of things early in her career that were tough, not easy, and didn't pay well. She got kids in school who were being discriminated against. She went door to door for the Children's Defense Fund. I literally don't see what your point is in saying that she should have just went to work for a normal, big firm. 

"She is known for stealing money," you also say. Okay, but then you say "let's not get into it." Yeah, you probably don't want to get into it because you don't have any facts worth mentioning. You can't just repeat talking points that you hear that have little basis in reality and not defend them. You don't know what you're talking about. Let's talk about it. I dare you to show me when and how she "stole money." You brought it up. I'm waiting.