DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Hailing from an ancient line of druids and heeding the call of ancient, primal bloodthirsty gods, Scathach is a powerful lady. She has an army of ghosts under her command. Ghosts can overpower (Axeman vs pre-supreme Cordelia) and kill witches, even those supposedly immune to bodily harm (Queenie). Scathach has magic of her own as well, having lived several centuries, longer than any supreme. While she does not appear to have access to instant offensive magical capabilities, she sure knows how to pull off spells/enchantments powerful enough to curse a massive stretch of lands for generations. The most powerful witch of the Salem descendants. She is basically the Avatar or the Slayer of her generation, with access to the most powerful spells, astounding magical attacks from simple telekinesis to pyrokinesis. She can control other people's will to varying extent and she has access to enchantments that she can suit to modify her needs. While Scathach can control ghosts, the Supreme can bring back the dead. A supreme can essentially teleport behind her opponent and slit her target's throat psssh, nothing personnel, kid A weakened Supreme caught off guard can still overpower a minotaur. To date, the Supreme has managed to eliminate the old line of witch hunters all over North America while also outlasting and outmuscling its rival voodoo practitioners. Who do you think wins? Vote and discuss. Do NOT make this a Gaga vs Lange debate. Stay within canon. Thanks. Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke78619 23,244 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Like you said, an army of the dead, she can also control you although not as strongly as a supremes. Plus, the witch of the woods is still alive after all these years insta: good_lukeing | I have nothing else to promote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miel 15,009 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Judging from what little we've seen so far, Scathach seems much more powerful, considering she's lived for so long. I mean, it's very much possible that, like the Supreme, she drained life constantly over the years to keep her vitality. But honestly? I think she is that age solely because of the power of whatever Old Gods she worshiped. It is, imo, very likely she was also the source of witchcraft in that area. The Coven mythos has sooo much narrative weight going for it, and so little explained. That honestly could have been worked into its own show. In fact, maybe it should have. ___________________________________ Watch the show be meta, and it is shown that the dramatization of Scathach was wrong, all along. 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorothy Gale 7,575 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 I feel like Scathach's magic is so different from the magic in Coven that it's hard to compare. It's like comparing Marie Laveau to the Supreme witch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipper 12,990 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 They are both powerful BUT, appearance wise... Lange looked like a powerful businesswoman as the supreme and Gaga looked homeless and living in the woods hungry for some d!ck. The supreme got milfmen at her disposal. I vote the supreme! Sasquatch or wte her name is still the queen of the monsters though. More scary and powerful. The supreme will scalp your metaphorical wig while Sasquatch will behead you. 💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕📦💕 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 97,490 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 I think the Supreme can win very easily, the Scathach powers seem to be dependent on the blood sacrifices to the gods while Cordelia couldn't care less about them If you see me posting like crazy, I'm either bored or procrastinating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, monster78619 said: Like you said, an army of the dead, she can also control you although not as strongly as a supremes. Plus, the witch of the woods is still alive after all these years Not technically army of the dead, but spirits. Zoe in her untrained level managed to release the voodoo queen's hold on an entire army of zombies, so it is possible that the Supreme can find a way to relinquish Scathach's hold over them. Even that old psychic claimed he knew how to end it all 2 minutes ago, Miel said: Judging from what little we've seen so far, Scathach seems much more powerful, considering she's lived for so long. I mean, it's very much possible that, like the Supreme, she drained life constantly over the years to keep her vitality. But honestly? I think she is that age solely because of the power of whatever Old Gods she worshiped. It is, imo, very likely she was also the source of witchcraft in that area. The Coven mythos has sooo much narrative weight going for it, and so little explained. That honestly could have been worked into its own show. In fact, maybe it should have. ___________________________________ Watch the show be meta, and it is shown that the dramatization of Scathach was wrong, all along. Well the paradise she offered to Roanoke did require blood sacrifice. Nice idea about her inspiring local witchcraft. Very possible. And I agree I would have loved to know more about where the Salem witches gained their power. 4 minutes ago, AntiPotCrusader said: I feel like Scathach's magic is so different from the magic in Coven that it's hard to compare. It's like comparing Marie Laveau to the Supreme witch. But we're talking about the two of them engaging in a fight, not exactly about what kind of magic they could do. 2 minutes ago, Shipper said: They are both powerful BUT, appearance wise... Lange looked like a powerful businesswoman as the supreme and Gaga looked homeless and living in the woods hungry for some d!ck. The supreme got milfmen at her disposal. I vote the supreme! Sasquatch or wte her name is still the queen of the monsters though. More scary and powerful. Remember what they said about the Taiwanese family's ancestors being no match for what was already there? And it only pertained to the ghosts of White and her followers. Scathach wasn't even in the picture yet, depending on how you interpret it. Imagine if Scathach herself walked in. Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 Just now, Red said: I think the Supreme can win very easily, the Scathach powers seem to be dependent on the blood sacrifices to the gods while Cordelia couldn't care less about them Scathach has armies of ghosts and ghosts can kill witches tho Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 97,490 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 minute ago, A Gaga Lad said: Scathach has armies of ghosts and ghosts can kill witches tho Mr. March killed Queenie but Queenie was just a basic bitch, can a ghost kill The Supreme with all the Seven Wonders? Also, The Supreme has the power to bring anyone from the dead, including herself, like Misty Day did to herself and The Supreme has the same power (as she has all the powers). If you see me posting like crazy, I'm either bored or procrastinating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuri 21,636 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 I would love The Forest Witch and Foxx to have an epic faceoff. Plus I think that The Forest Witch is killable as the Old Man knew a spell to get rid of all of them but got killed. In terms of power it's The Supreme=The Forest Witch=Voodo Queen, The Council(Zoey, and Queenie), rest of witches. Don't really know how stong Billie Dean, and the Old Man are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, Red said: The Supreme has the power to bring anyone from the dead, including herself, like Misty Day did Misty has the power of resurgence. That power was unique to her. No known supreme has shown the ability to revive herself without also having the natural affinity for resurgence. Besides, what's all the seven wonders going to do against a ghost? Can you use telekinesis properly against a ghost? Descensum and leave your body vulnerable? the seven wonders does not all carry offensive capabilities Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sizzily 14,543 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Scathach. I loathe Coven. Tears in the rain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 97,490 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, A Gaga Lad said: Misty has the power of resurgence. That power was unique to her. No known supreme has shown that ability without also having the natural affinity for resurgence. Besides, what's all the seven wonders going to do against a ghost? Can you use telekinesis properly against a ghost? Descensum and leave your body vulnerable? the seven wonders does not all carry offensive capabilities Doesn't the Supreme have all the powers? They say so in the series. And the Seven Wonders can't make the invincible but they sure can make it a lot harder to kill them, they can teleport, they have divination (so they can predict the ghost attack a little in advance), they can read minds, a lot of cool stuff... If you see me posting like crazy, I'm either bored or procrastinating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 Just now, Sizzily said: Scathach. I loathe Coven. okay but your reasons have to be within canon, and not meta 3 minutes ago, Misaki said: I would love The Forest Witch and Foxx to have an epic faceoff. Plus I think that The Forest Witch is killable as the Old Man knew a spell to get rid of all of them but got killed. In terms of power it's The Supreme=The Forest Witch=Voodo Queen, The Council(Zoey, and Queenie), rest of witches. Don't really know how stong Billie Dean, and the Old Man are. The psychics I think are somewhat low tier. Billie Dean especially hasn't shown something noteworthy. They can perceive but most of their "supernatural" abilities rely heavily on rituals. Witches have better affinity towards magic as they can perform them almost instantaneously and their rituals appear more powerful/ Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Red said: Queenie was just a basic bitch Excuse me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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