danilov 288 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 As I've always explained to my friends, she's not just a pop/super star anymore. She's kinda legend now actually. In the future, she would be in the leagues of David Bowie. She's that superstar that's really on the "music-not-the-bling" side who's gonna be remembered not because of topping the charts, but because of the music she brought out. She's the kind of super star whose music (especially nowadays) doesn't resonate to the general general public. But I firmly believe, when she gets older or dies, her songs would be the songs future critics will keep on coming back to to study or even research about. Her songs are the ones future famous singers will cover. Her songs are songs that are much remembered as it gets older. That's how I feel about her and her career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denys 848 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 18 minutes ago, Bradley Cooper said: So some of her singles don't do as well as Taylor Swift or Katy Perry's, and while I can greatly enjoy music without regards to their commercial performance, I understand the notion of 'it's good to celebrate when your favorite songs do well', so I was still secretly hoping Gaga could bounce back to being a widely known pop star ala Katy Perry. But now, I don't think it's that important anymore. We have tons of artists doing well on the charts like Selena Gomez, The Chainsmokers ,Calvin Harris or even Lukas Graham, Twenty One Pilots, I'm not saying they will remain in their current position forever, but obviously they're not on the same league as Bruno Mars, Beyonce, Adele, Rihanna and our fav, Lady Gaga. It really doesn't matter if Gaga is on the charts or radio or not. I have not even heard Formation, Sorry or Hold Up on the radio before but Lemonade is being hailed as one of the best albums of 2016. She's still grossing a whole lot of money from the Formation World Tour. She's still a global force and respected among artists who dwell in the music industry. She's recognised as someone who can actually perform AND sing and has deep artistic integrity, which is why she has been invited to perform at the Superbowl twice, won tons of Grammy awards, and generally recognised by the public as a pop sensation, and she doesn't even do well on Hot 100 or has a song that's garnered 2 billion views like Gangnam Style has. Guess who's similar to her? Lady Gaga. You've probably heard this before but let's take a look at Gaga's career right now: Recognised as a vocalist and powerhouse live singer: I mean she had won a Grammy with this 18-time Grammy winner, this man has a 'Tony Bennett day' dedicated to him. Despite being a jazz singer with almost no radio presence, Duets II and Cheek to Cheek managed to each sell over 1 million copies. I mean all the critics were surprised by Gaga's ability to sing jazz. What do these performances have in common? ACCLAIM. The reason she was invited to Superbowl to sing the national anthem is probably due to the whole jazz album and tour and THESE performances. Reveal hidden contents Dr. Luke Max Martin StarGate (who produced Rihanna's S&M, Only Girl, Diamonds, etc.) Calvin Harris What do the producers above have in common? Hit-makers. While I love pop music and am not denying their music occasionally sounds good, we all know what constitutes generic and trend-following and what constitutes authenticity. Status of Gaga associates: Nile Rodgers Sting Elton John Paul McCartney (as far as we know, Paul says he still intends to release their collaboration song, but pending studio work for the movie) Stevie Wonder I mean do these artists need a Hot 100 hit to be respected? Evident recognition as a contemporary legend: Just because you have a hit like Closer or Same Old Love doesn't get you the qualification to perform at the Superbowl or Oscars or pay tribute to legends: Take a look at the artists to whom Gaga had paid tribute: Frank Sinatra Sting David Bowie Stevie Wonder Carole King If those aren't enough, your so-called Indie-Ga has been invited to perform: at the Superbowl for TWO FCKING YEARS IN A ROW. LADY GAGA THE ACTRESS: American Horror Story is one of the most popular cult-inviting shows on TV rn and Gaga managed to get an association with Ryan Murphy and his cast including Sarah Paulson and Kathy Bates. I dk about you but being a friend of Ryan Murphy is a big deal to me. I love his shows and his crazy ideas and everyone in the TV industry knows who he is. While her role for the Countess was not nominated at the Emmys, it did garner a Golden Globe. I believe she will have bigger roles offered to her in the future. Ryan's ideas for TV is limitless and she could possibly start her 'Emmy career' from AHS, if not Ryan's new shows like American Crime Story, Feud (starring Jessica Lange), etc. Scream Queens was just another by-product of his. A Star Is Born and Bradley Cooper: What is Bradley famous for apart from his ultra-hot face and body? Oscars. This man is nominated for 4 Oscars consecutively and Gaga is under HIS guidance. Her movie career is just about to begin. While she stands a chance at getting nominated at the Oscars, since this film does sound like one that the Oscars would give attention to, if made properly, so what if she doesn't? She's the female lead alongside one of the most highest paid and recognised actors in the movie industry and this role would just open further gates to her movie career. What I'm trying to say is, if you think Gaga's career is over, or is deteriorating, talk again in 5 years. This is so accurate + I feel like Gaga started preparing for her rainy days after ARTPOP, I mean she started showing her other abilities so she won't be forgotten very fast. The hits a cute but that's what they are cute! Plus we both know no one is about to touch BR soon! She already secured her sit at the table if u ask me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLLGaga 928 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 I'm going to stop arguing with you guys now since you obviously can't accept the reality of Gaga's career. Don't want to get any more warning points for voicing my opinion. This site is honestly so oppressive. Why join a forum if you can't handle different viewpoints? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,094 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 1 minute ago, CLLGaga said: So Rihanna and Taylor Swift will be forgotten? You guys need to stop being delusional and making excuses for Gaga. Literally nobody but her fans care for or will remember side projects, I've had this conversation with you before "You guys need to stop being delusional and making excuses for Gaga. Literally nobody but her fans care for or will remember side projects" Why is it so important to you that Gaga courts the approval of a mainstream pop audience? The girl has $250 million in her wallet. If I was in her position, after achieving so much already, I wouldn't care about any of that. I'd pursue whatever creative project takes my interest, make music I like and play for people who like what I'm bringing out. It's such a bizarre conversation anyway, like it's been going on since she released Judas. Her future singles needed to go #1 or she would be over, ARTPOP needed to be the biggest album or she would be over, she couldn't dare release C2C or she would be over, PI needs to smash or she will be over. Maybe it's time to just chill, if you don't enjoy what she is putting out then stop stanning and if you do then there is no problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,094 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 1 minute ago, CLLGaga said: I'm going to stop arguing with you guys now since you obviously can't accept the reality of Gaga's career. Don't want to get any more warning points for voicing my opinion. This site is honestly so oppressive. Why join a forum if you can't handle different viewpoints? People just have a different opinion to you... Why are you just going to up and leave? Can't you handle different viewpoints? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaGaBabyOohLala 72 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Anything to make you feels better. We all know publics are tired with Beyonce and one of the reason her singles aren't play on the radio because her music sucks. And so is PI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLLGaga 928 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Just now, Bebe said: People just have a different opinion to you... Why are you just going to up and leave? Can't you handle different viewpoints? Because I just got warning points for having "negative opinions" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danilov 288 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 You forgot as well!!! Not only was she invited at SUPERBOWL twice in a row, also invited for OSCARS twice in a row. THIS IS LEGENDARY TBH. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addison Rae 16,749 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 27 minutes ago, Bradley Cooper said: So some of her singles don't do as well as Taylor Swift or Katy Perry's, and while I can greatly enjoy music without regard to their commercial performance, I understand the notion of 'it's good to celebrate when your favorite songs do well', so I was still secretly hoping Gaga could bounce back to being a widely known pop star ala Katy Perry. But now, I don't think it's that important anymore. We have tons of artists doing well on the charts like Selena Gomez, The Chainsmokers ,Calvin Harris or even Lukas Graham, Twenty One Pilots, I'm not saying they will remain in their current position forever, but obviously they're not on the same league as Bruno Mars, Beyonce, Adele, Rihanna and our fav, Lady Gaga. It really doesn't matter if Gaga is on the charts or radio or not. I have not even heard Formation, Sorry or Hold Up on the radio before but Lemonade is being hailed as one of the best albums of 2016. She's still grossing a whole lot of money from the Formation World Tour. She's still a global force and respected among artists who dwell in the music industry. She's recognised as someone who can actually perform AND sing and has deep artistic integrity, which is why she has been invited to perform at the Superbowl twice, won tons of Grammy awards, and generally recognised by the public as a pop sensation, and she doesn't even do well on Hot 100 or has a song that's garnered 2 billion views like Gangnam Style has. Guess who's similar to her? Lady Gaga. You've probably heard this before but let's take a look at Gaga's career right now: Recognised as a vocalist and powerhouse live singer: I mean she had won a Grammy with this 18-time Grammy winner, this man has a 'Tony Bennett day' dedicated to him. Despite being a jazz singer with almost no radio presence, Duets II and Cheek to Cheek managed to each sell over 1 million copies. I mean all the critics were surprised by Gaga's ability to sing jazz. What do these performances have in common? ACCLAIM. The reason she was invited to Superbowl to sing the national anthem is probably due to the whole jazz album and tour and THESE performances. Hide contents Dr. Luke Max Martin StarGate (who produced Rihanna's S&M, Only Girl, Diamonds, etc.) Calvin Harris What do the producers above have in common? Hit-makers. While I love pop music and am not denying their music occasionally sounds good, we all know what constitutes generic and trend-following and what constitutes authenticity. Status of Gaga associates: Nile Rodgers Sting Elton John Paul McCartney (as far as we know, Paul says he still intends to release their collaboration song, but pending studio work for the movie) Stevie Wonder I mean do these artists need a Hot 100 hit to be respected? Evident recognition as a contemporary legend: Just because you have a hit like Closer or Same Old Love doesn't get you the qualification to perform at the Superbowl or Oscars or pay tribute to legends: Take a look at the artists to whom Gaga had paid tribute: Frank Sinatra Sting David Bowie Stevie Wonder Carole King If those aren't enough, your so-called Indie-Ga has been invited to perform: at the Superbowl for TWO FCKING YEARS IN A ROW. LADY GAGA THE ACTRESS: American Horror Story is one of the most popular cult-inviting shows on TV rn and Gaga managed to get an association with Ryan Murphy and his cast including Sarah Paulson and Kathy Bates. I dk about you but being a friend of Ryan Murphy is a big deal to me. I love his shows and his crazy ideas and everyone in the TV industry knows who he is. While her role for the Countess was not nominated at the Emmys, it did garner a Golden Globe. I believe she will have bigger roles offered to her in the future. Ryan's ideas for TV is limitless and she could possibly start her 'Emmy career' from AHS, if not Ryan's new shows like American Crime Story, Feud (starring Jessica Lange), etc. Scream Queens was just another by-product of his. A Star Is Born and Bradley Cooper: What is Bradley famous for apart from his ultra-hot face and body? Oscars. This man is nominated for 4 Oscars consecutively and Gaga is under HIS guidance. Her movie career is just about to begin. While she stands a chance at getting nominated at the Oscars, since this film does sound like one that the Oscars would give attention to, if made properly, so what if she doesn't? She's the female lead alongside one of the most highest paid and recognised actors in the movie industry and this role would just open further gates to her movie career. What I'm trying to say is, if you think Gaga's career is over, or is deteriorating, talk again in 5 years. I really appreciate you taking the time to write all of this for everyone to read. She has accomplished so much, so what if Perfect Illusion isn't a huge smash hit? Her talent is the main focus and should always be the main focus in regards to her music. sitting on his lap sipping diet pepsi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,094 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Just now, CLLGaga said: Because I just got warning points for having "negative opinions" Negative opinions are fine as long as it isn't the only stuff you are posting. Maybe you should find something you like about Gaga and her music rather than just joining her fan site to post your "negative opinions" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,150 Posted September 30, 2016 Author Share Posted September 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, GaGaBabyOohLala said: Anything to make you feels better. We all know publics are tired with Beyonce and one of the reason her singles aren't play on the radio because her music sucks. And so is PI. If people are tired of Beyonce, no one would attend the Formation World Tour. She wouldn't perform a 12-minute set at the VMAs this year. She wouldn't have won Video of the Year. She wouldn't have been invited to perform at the Superbowl again this year. While I'm happily bopping to Perfect Illusion and pending Joanne, you can wait for the next era or start stanning another artist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,150 Posted September 30, 2016 Author Share Posted September 30, 2016 5 minutes ago, Dolce Vita said: I really appreciate you taking the time to write all of this for everyone to read. She has accomplished so much, so what if Perfect Illusion isn't a huge smash hit? Her talent is the main focus and should always be the main focus in regards to her music. I'm happy that y'all enjoy it. I am supposed to be working on my assignment and watching American Horror Story because those are the two things I want to accomplish today. Now I have much less time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaGaBabyOohLala 72 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Bradley Cooper said: If people are tired of Beyonce, no one would attend the Formation World Tour. She wouldn't perform a 12-minute set at the VMAs this year. She wouldn't have won Video of the Year. She wouldn't have been invited to perform at the Superbowl again this year. While I'm happily bopping to Perfect Illusion and pending Joanne, you can wait for the next era or start stanning another artist. The only thing why Bey kinda relevant rn is only because she's married with Jay Z and basically, she's at her peak rn yet her songs still remains like before, no impact to the public and forgettable accept for Halo and Single Ladies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,150 Posted September 30, 2016 Author Share Posted September 30, 2016 Just now, GaGaBabyOohLala said: The only thing why Bey kinda relevant rn is only because she's married with Jay Z and basically, she's at her peak rn yet her songs still remains like before, no impact to the public and forgettable accept for Halo and Single Ladies. omg no. Jay-Z is no where to be seen in the music industry. The only thing people talk about him is that he's rich and he's a good businessman. I mean with all his TIDAL business going on. Beyonce's achievements are solely her own. It has nothing to do with Jay-Z contributing to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yASSsss 35,510 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 11 minutes ago, CLLGaga said: I'm going to stop arguing with you guys now since you obviously can't accept the reality of Gaga's career. Don't want to get any more warning points for voicing my opinion. This site is honestly so oppressive. Why join a forum if you can't handle different viewpoints? Worry about your own career.as the OP said,Gaga is doing more than fine OT-couldn't agree more.No one cares about how many number 1 singles your faves have outside Pop forums and stan twitter Gaga has reached the point in her career where she's free to do what she likes.She's become an artist of her league and She doesn't need to chase commercial success just because annoying stans on atrl and ggd want her to do so Call me by your name and I'll call you by mine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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