Lady Gaga's Sexist Subtext

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2 hours ago, Gracious Gaga said:

I understand.  The point I'm trying to propose to is not allow such remarks to be considered "normal" in conversation.  In fact it is normal for men to cry and it should never have to be defended.

You have a point. I can't lie, it did bug me when I heard her say that, but at the end of the day it's just a cultural phenomenon that will (hopefully) die out one day.

We, and especially Gaga, all know that it's okay to be male and cry. I feel like she only said that because she wasn't sure if Mark would want her to reveal such a vulnerable moment and thus influence his public image.

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3 hours ago, faysalaaa1 said:

They will change when science matches your claims.. only two genders exist. Also, there is a difference between the genders male and female. Also, if you believe male and female is a social construct, why do you believe that other genders exist and how does transgender people change genders? I gues your social construct fantasy only applies to white straight people!

Umm science doesn't discuss gender. Male and female are sexes not genders so science already matches our claims thanks 

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2 hours ago, Joanne Angelina said:

I had the exact same thought. Did not expect the terms "feminist", "social justice warrior" and "lesbian" being used as insults on a site dedicated to Lady Gaga.

This. Do they know who they Stan? Born this way hello ?? gaga stated herself was about social justice and social activism. Gaga is a feminist.one thing I respect about gaga a lot is that she previously didn't identify as a feminist because she thought it meant man hating. She learnt and she changed and has been vocal ever since about being a feminist 

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Gaga is still an LGBT advocate, she is not sexist at all. 

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22 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said:

Can you stop with the evo. psych bs?

Just because women and men on average have differences does not mean that society should run as if these are absolutes and force people to conform to those ideals

Gender is a social construct, it's not just a belief, its actually very much demonstrable if you know anything about sociology or anthropology (or even history to get specific). Just because something is "socially constructed" does not mean that it is not real. If you really do some research, genders besides what we now know as "male and female" have existed since pretty much we have had record of human civilization. The most common one people tend to know is native american societies that acknowledged and recognized a third gender, or "two spirits"... There are tons more though.

Finally, Trans people do not "change gender", they go through a myriad of steps to correct psychological, mental, or physical dysphoria and align how they feel with how they look or are perceived by society  

Also, no one said anything about white straight people  #VictimComplex (I'm totally kidding  )

These ideas are already confirmed scientifically but I do agree that we should not treat people based on their gender and treat them as individuals meaning just because it is scientifically proven that women are made to be  a certain way, doesnt mean all of them are that way and even if they are, we should allow women to do and be whatever they want to be and not judge them for it.

Yes society does effect the genders like how men and women are linked to certain colors for example but there is other factors that society has nothing to do with like how women release a hormone after she gives birth that allows her to easily read peoples face without them talking so she can know what her baby is telling her. No matter what you say, science is not yet on your side and if you dont admit to science, you are just like republicans that believe global warming is not a real thing and trust me they have their evidence just like you have yours.

Trans people do change to a specific genders.. alot of them say I feel like I was born a man/woman my whole life even though society and family treated them as women/man their whole life! Also, if gender and all that is social construct, why do Gay people such as myself cant have sex with women? I am 100% Gay I could never have sex with a woman and just the thought of that grosses me out. I dont know how a belief that Native Americans had hundred of years ago makes something a fact.

Im not white so I dont have a victim complex about being white.

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This subtext is a fantasy

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I love pseudophycology and pseudoanthropology 

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41 minutes ago, SilkSpectre0 said:

Umm science doesn't discuss gender. Male and female are sexes not genders so science already matches our claims thanks 

Science discusses everything.. for it to be proven, you will have to use science. None Binary is a term born out of academia like gender studies courses but it has no basis in science. When someone tells you they are gender binary, they are telling you less about their gender identity and more about their ideology. Being transgender is an actually medical diagnosis, it mean you have been diagnosed by gender dysphoria which is an extreme discontent with onces own gender. Here is an example to how science can play a part.. when you observe the brain structures of male to female transexuals, what you see is that alot of areas of the brain are actually similar to that of biological women. So you can kind of see how someone whos born with these brain structures can end up going through life and developing dysphoria like something is wrong with them when in reality its just that their brain and other factors are female while their body is male. We need to tell these people the truth and what science says instead of giving them a subjective ideology just to benefit feminists or whatever and hurting them more as transgenders have one of the highest suicide rates.

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21 minutes ago, Craig Barnes said:

Gaga is still an LGBT advocate, she is not sexist at all. 

LGBT is not a sex

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On Wednesday, September 28, 2016 at 5:03 PM, Chris Evans said:

I already re-read it 

saying "have some balls" is just an expression but you're also equating it to "man up" which she didn't say 

what I want to know is who does her use of equating "having some balls" to bravery and "manly tears" affects

because the only people I've ever seen affected by expressions that barely scratch the surface of political incorrectness are SJWs just like when they claim "cultural appropriation" to a culture that isn't even their own

Everyone is affected by expressions whether it offends them personally or not.

Her statements reinforced gender stereotypes even though that was not her intention.

Sayings such as "take it like a man" or "you hit like a girl" affect both males and females growing up and reinforces gender stereotypes. 

There's a reason why there is a stigma against men showing emotions which leads to some being aggressive and even violent in nature. 

Society grooms them to be that way. It's what's socially acceptable.

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1 minute ago, faysalaaa1 said:

LGBT is not a sex

Erm, all LGBT are feminists though, didn't you hear?

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1 minute ago, faysalaaa1 said:

LGBT is not a sex

What I'm saying is, she is still much involved with the LGBT community and still fights for equality.

And lady gaga is not sexist, and stated in this thread

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2 minutes ago, Cody Draco said:

Everyone is affected by expressions whether it offends them personally or not.

Her statements reinforced gender stereotypes even though that was not her intention.

Sayings such as "take it like a man" or "you hit like a girl" affect both males and females growing up and reinforces gender stereotypes. 

There's a reason why there is a stigma against men showing emotions which leads to some being aggressive and even violent in nature. 

Society grooms them to be that way. It's what's socially acceptable.

[citation needed]

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5 minutes ago, Craig Barnes said:

What I'm saying is, she is still much involved with the LGBT community and still fights for equality.

And lady gaga is not sexist, and stated in this thread

I know she is not a sexist or anything close to that, im just saying that just because you support LGBT, doesnt mean you are not a sexist. I was just nit picking I knew what you meant

6 minutes ago, Gagaiagr8 said:

Erm, all LGBT are feminists though, didn't you hear?

Thats true, I think im the only Gay thats not a feminist.. thats why I cant relate to Gay people.

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4 hours ago, Joanne Angelina said:

Of course she wasn't attacking the male gender. She just thought it was necessary to defend two men crying and said that their crying was "manly".

Which inherently implies that a man possessing a stereotypical female quality (such as being emotional) is less than desirable. Thus reinforcing gender stereotypes.

It's not Gaga I have an issue with, it's the society that shapes us all and by defending these sayings (society) we are defending the prevalence and following of gender stereotypes.

P.s. I'm not attacking you, I love your post and agree with it 100%. It just inspired me to express my feelings on the topic at hand a little more.