Torsoface 3,262 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 She's not a legend Maybe after the next two albums if they are amazing but not yet. Having famous friends doesn't make you a legend And WHY is mark ronson included in the op? He has ONE succesful song x10000000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Surrealist 27,470 Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 6 minutes ago, Torsoface said: She's not a legend Maybe after the next two albums if they are amazing but not yet. Having famous friends doesn't make you a legend And WHY is mark ronson included in the op? He has ONE succesful song x10000000 Back To Black says hello. To all the others: I kinda understand now why Gaga doesn't like this site. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Surrealist 27,470 Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 21 minutes ago, xeynuraf said: How did gags change gay culture????? Are you 12? Yes. I am 12. Now what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Surrealist 27,470 Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 17 minutes ago, Snow said: Okey this crossed The line to delululusion land waaaaay too hard so I have to comment. Are you kidding me?! Latching on to legends (by actual merrit) has NOTHING to do with being a legend. Gaga is NOT a legend and not yet even close with only a couple of succesful years and not many merrits. Thats just The reality of things atm. Let's see in 20 years time... Insulting to actual legends... So you think Gaga can be forgotton? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeynuraf 191 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, Sycamore said: Yes. I am 12. Now what? That explains it. Educate yourself about gay culture so you don't sound like you think gaga is reinventing the wheel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Surrealist 27,470 Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, xeynuraf said: That explains it. Educate yourself about gay culture so you don't sound like gaga is reinventing the wheel. Why do I need to educate myself about it? Without Gaga gay culture wouldn't have the impact it has now. Was she the first? No, I've never said that, but okay. Was she one of the first modern musicians to do so? Yes. Did everybody tried to gain gay support after seeing her succeed with it? Yes. And she didn't "latch" into gay culture, she embraced it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeynuraf 191 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Sycamore said: Why do I need to educate myself about it? Without Gaga gay culture wouldn't have the impact it has now. Was she the first? No, I've never said that, but okay. Was she one of the first modern musicians to do so? Yes. Did everybody tried to gain gay support after seeing her succeed with it? Yes. And she didn't "latch" into gay culture, she embraced it. So "embracing" the gay culture like tons of artist have done in the past is changing gay culture? Ok. The wave of acceptace of gay culture and rights has been a long and painful one that a lot of people have died in the process. Because you are young and know nothing about it and gaga being supportive is all you know, doesn't justify your claim that she changed gay culture in any form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Surrealist 27,470 Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 Just now, xeynuraf said: So "embracing" the gay culture like tons of artist have done in the past is changing gay culture? Ok. The wave of acceptace of gay culture and rights has been a long and painful one that a lot of people have died in the process. Because you are young and know nothing about it and gaga being supportive is all you know, doesn't justify your claim that she changed gay culture in any form. I'm not actually 12. LOL. I know damn well of the history of the LGBTQ community. And I didn't say that Gaga is a martyr. What could she have done more? Should she have died to be a game changer of gay culture on Pop music? I don't understand the logic of this discussion. I didn't say Gaga is god of the gays and humanity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeynuraf 191 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 9 minutes ago, Sycamore said: I'm not actually 12. LOL. I know damn well of the history of the LGBTQ community. And I didn't say that Gaga is a martyr. What could she have done more? Should she have died to be a game changer of gay culture on Pop music? I don't understand the logic of this discussion. I didn't say Gaga is god of the gays and humanity. The logic of this discussion is that gaga being supportive to the gay community in modern times doesn't make her a gay culture champion. She doesn't have to be a martyr but your claim that she changed gay culture is a mega reach. That's all. I see that you are not getting that some of your claims are bogus so... Bye gurl. I hope someone in this board enlightens you eventually. Im giving up. I have things to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperIz 7,346 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Zsolti said: "i have a black friend" Are you even a Gaga fan? I've never seen you say one nice thing about her here. Human generated art Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zsolti 2,688 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Just now, PaperIz said: Are you even a Gaga fan? I've never seen you say one nice thing about her here. of course I am. Please correct me if I make any grammar mistakes, I want to master English as much as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperIz 7,346 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Zsolti said: of course I am. I simply don't believe you. All I've seen you do is be negative here. Human generated art Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Surrealist 27,470 Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 5 minutes ago, xeynuraf said: The logic of this discussion is that gaga being supportive to the gay community in modern times doesn't make her a gay culture champion. She doesn't have to be a martyr but your claim that she changed gay culture is a mega reach. That's all. I see that you are not getting that some of your claims are bogus so... Bye gurl. I hope someone in this board enlightens you eventually. Im giving up. I have things to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zsolti 2,688 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Just now, PaperIz said: I simply don't believe you. All I've seen you do is be negative here. I don't have to prove myself to anyone lol. Please correct me if I make any grammar mistakes, I want to master English as much as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperIz 7,346 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Just now, Zsolti said: I don't have to prove myself to anyone lol. No you don't and you also don't have to spread your hate here so please stop. Human generated art Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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