Sam Dey 1,847 Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 5 minutes ago, Dangerous Man said: I was going to agree with you until I read the last paragraph. Why do you need to drag another artist when they're not hurting you at all? This thread is rather petty. I just wanted to make some contrast. I think the video of side to side is very fake and industrialised. I do love the song tho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not The Real Gaga 7,545 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 People can better say their real, honest opinion than forcing themselves to love something they don't appreciate. Everybody is free in having an opinion. If they like the "Pre-Joanne" Gaga more, it's fine. That's absolutely NOT a reason to call somebody a "fake fan"! "So people obviously want her to act fake and do things against her will." You should also support that value the other way around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Dey 1,847 Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, AlexanderMagno said: Those so called "real fans" are the ones who are obsessed with charts, with their "#streamPI" and "PIVevoRecord" campaigns And people grow up. So you were a stan yesterday, but today you are not, does that make you fake? No, it doesn't, it only means you stopped relating to Gaga's work. That's the most normal thing ever. I can't agree with anything you've said. Not even the "creative freedom" stuff. She's doing the music she wants, but doesn't mean she doesn't have a whole team telling her how to manage her image. Don't be naive. If she'd listen to a team who wanted her to gain publicity again we'd have another ARTPOP... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PassTheTime 1,448 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, littlebitch said: There is a difference between people who listen to music but don't really care about the value (which is fantastic, great, amazing) and there are people who really dig into music and analyse it and respect it. That's just the way it is. and you wanna tell me that PI is more metaphorical than her past work ? " be her pure self instead of caring about fame and publicity." it shows how little you know about Gaga's artistic expression in the past Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haroon 49,685 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 But who are we to say that she wasn't being real back then and now she's suddenly all real and stuff? This is one of the reasons I don't like the contradictions because every musical endeavour becomes "the real me" and "finally being in control" If people liked Gaga before and aren't liking her new aesthetics and musical direction then let them, that doesn't make anyone more real or more fake or anything. Liking her current aesthetic and direction also doesn't make anyone any more or less of a "real" fan whatever that even is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PassTheTime 1,448 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, littlebitch said: If she'd listen to a team who wanted her to gain publicity again we'd have another ARTPOP... baby this is a marketing stunt too - being basic and after this era she is Back to Gaga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Every member here wants to rant how he/she doesnt like Gaga fans.. well this is how all fans are, get over it. Its like SJW complaining about internet comments! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano 31,061 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 who cares who's a fan or a stan or a hater it doesn't matter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vergil 2,296 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 They're not fake stans. They're just disappointed and I understand them, they'll eventually be back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderMagno 10,746 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 minute ago, littlebitch said: If she'd listen to a team who wanted her to gain publicity again we'd have another ARTPOP... No. She has spent the last three years building a solid image, or you think Gaga has been all alone while developing C2C and the National Anthem and the Oscars and the acting career? They are not dumb, everyone is aware of the damage her image suffered since ARTPOP and even her low-profile comeback has some sense to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Dey 1,847 Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Unites said: People can better say their real, honest opinion than forcing themselves to love something they don't appreciate. Everybody is free in having an opinion. If they like the "Pre-Joanne" Gaga more, it's fine. That's absolutely NOT a reason to call somebody a "fake fan"! "So people obviously want her to act fake and do things against her will." You should also support that value the other way around. Not saying that. I don't care that some people don't like her anymore. I just care about people who go off on her for acting a little (or a lot) more real. I just don't support that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 76,788 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 14 minutes ago, vanus said: why is PI video tanking The views keep getting frozen and they have to update them, but yeah, it does it look weird 𝔊𝔬𝔬𝔡𝔟𝔶𝔢, ℑ'𝔩𝔩 𝔰𝔢𝔢 𝔶𝔬𝔲 𝔦𝔫 𝔪𝔶 𝔡𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔪𝔰 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 It's interesting, with every new era, we get lots of newbies, usually they are NEW fans and that's great and normal. But when many of them register, just to talk **** about her present work and praise her past, with typical Gaga avi to be more convincing, we get the ILLUSION that majority of fans don't enjoy anything she does these days. They are in fact trolls. And some have been trolling for years. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphaz 7,956 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 There is no such thing loving music in general if that's the case, you will be stanning for every single living artists there are there is something what we call preference some of us like certain music, looks and visual if some of fans don't like certain thing that Gaga does, these "so called real fans" start calling other being fake fans for not supporting her Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderMagno 10,746 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, Haroon said: But who are we to say that she wasn't being real back then and now she's suddenly all real and stuff? This is one of the reasons I don't like the contradictions because every musical endeavour becomes "the real me" and "finally being in control" If people liked Gaga before and aren't liking her new aesthetics and musical direction then let them, that doesn't make anyone more real or more fake or anything. Liking her current aesthetic and direction also doesn't make anyone any more or less of a "real" fan whatever that even is Exactly. Unfortunately I think Gaga is pretty much responsible for the way her fans behave and think, and I've been very disappointed since those contradictions started getting pretty regular during and after ARTPOP. We have been so obsessed with Gaga's statements and personas that we've became very naive about the pop music industry, in which Gaga still is a part of. Get real and enjoy the music. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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