PassTheTime 1,448 Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, BricksNStrings said: So you're telling me Gaga taking the concept "Illusion" from Kevin Parker and working with some of the world's most renowned producers and songwriters to build the song from the ground up, contributing her own lyrics and melodies along the way and being the primary creative force, is her "splitting an already written song" (Perfect Illusion), but her taking an instrumental and using nearly the entire thing but just singing over it is just Gaga taking her "muse" from somewhere (Aura)? Is that really what you're saying? that's the thing that i doubt in this song and not in the others Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creyk 17,805 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 50 minutes ago, SlaeUrAnus said: It's just an album that is referring to when she was underground aka Stefani. If Gaga didn't go 'Gaga', she will never have been recognised nevermind the person who she is today. Just take it with a pinch of salt and enjoy the stripped down music we are going to get in the next month. It does feeling weird though because the majority of us have been fans of the 'arsty' and 'controversial' Gaga since 2009, and to know that we waited 3 years without any creative/artistic outfits or performances is quite sad, but if she wants to get this off her chest for just one album, so be it. Crazy/Artistic Gaga will be back. I wonder though, if Crazy Gaga comes back when she is pushing forty, won't it seem forced and desperate? She could pull it off today but time is working against her Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout19 11,821 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 hour ago, GagaInArt said: Some "little " things that i feel like this era is missing : 1.No concept for this album => no visual or audio connections amoung songs ("Just a bunch of songs "-LG) 2.She took an already written song ,PI, and split it in many parts and redo it - this is NOT Gaga's stile at all 3.No choreography for this album - another spectrum of her creative expression from the past that is missing 4.No hard artistic outfits with visual,cultural and artistic impact. They were the product of her creativity ,hard work and passion for her art.The outfits helped her art to express more to " get in your face ", to feel her art through more senses (eyes ,ears,body etc) 5.Production of this album makes me worried because PI's production is not soo good even with 2 producers involved in the process (both are producers but different genres Mark -rock ,BloodPop-Pop so maybe there were some artistic differences.) 6.No more theatrics, again a form of expression. She was this mysterious artist that many people didn't even know if she was a man or a woman -SHE WAS THAT GOOD AT BLENDING WITH HER ART . These things were the quintessences of Lady Gaga and now they are not there anymore so pls don't diminish these things ,she is not covering a song, like the past couple of years ,just to take a mic and sings she is more than that . I f loved when she submit Salvador Dali to GP ,an ECCENTRIC GENUS painter, and I always thought of herself in that form. I am really sorry if I made somebody angry .I am just upset because she has soo much potential and i am not like "fed me art come machine give me art " she had 3 years to think about this album (she doesn;t even know the tour's name ) . yaaassss.. finally someone speak the true i'm a powerpuff girl. ○● Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BricksNStrings 231 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, GagaInArt said: that's the thing that i doubt in this song and not in the others In that case, I have no response because this is then complete speculation on your part (contradicted by Gaga's own anecdotes about the songs in question, but whatever). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I'm just glad she is experimenting and trying new things. Artsy doesn't mean extravagant and pretentious. Art can be found on simplicity and I think she is doing a perfect job for now. and tbh she was trying way too hard during the ARTPOP era. Not even her knew how to explain what it really meant because it was clearly not working at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortal 222 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I totally agree with you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlaeUrAnus 15,958 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 10 minutes ago, Creyk said: I wonder though, if Crazy Gaga comes back when she is pushing forty, won't it seem forced and desperate? She could pull it off today but time is working against her That is very true. In my messy era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PassTheTime 1,448 Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 minute ago, BricksNStrings said: In that case, I have no response because this is then complete speculation on your part (contradicted by Gaga's own anecdotes about the songs in question, but whatever). did u see the tag -OPINION- I made my opinion based on interviews and her "choose of words" when she describe her lead single Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphaz 7,956 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 hour ago, SlaeUrAnus said: It's just an album that is referring to when she was underground aka Stefani. If Gaga didn't go 'Gaga', she will never have been recognised nevermind the person who she is today. Just take it with a pinch of salt and enjoy the stripped down music we are going to get in the next month. It does feeling weird though because the majority of us have been fans of the 'arsty' and 'controversial' Gaga since 2009, and to know that we waited 3 years without any creative/artistic outfits or performances is quite sad, but if she wants to get this off her chest for just one album, so be it. Crazy/Artistic Gaga will be back. There is a reason why Stefani can't make it, That's why she have to create Gaga I very much hope so for the bolt part, but once she grow older, she might not suited for being crazy anymore That's why I'm a bit disappointed she chose this direction when she's still in her thirties while she still can experiment being crazy and artsy a lot more in this age I just can't see her dancing and wearing crazy outfit in her forties, but I can see her being this rock chick and going back to being Stefani at that age just my opinion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manul 7,377 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 The song is ok, the video is tragic. "Nice start to an era. it wasn't laaaahv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 26,837 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I don't understand anything that's going on in this era lol... It's all nonsense to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HausAlly 799 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 first of all i love artsy gaga, second if you were to ask me, do i think that just because gaga is not showing her ***, taking ten minute walks around the berlin wall and posting infomercials about renaissance art on twitter, that she is somehow less than her greatest artistic achievement, i would say no. although she isn't shoving creations down our throat doesn't mean she isn't giving us artistic excellence, art can be slow and smooth not everything is a rave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HausAlly 799 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 47 minutes ago, RudzXinc said: There is a reason why Stefani can't make it, That's why she have to create Gaga I very much hope so for the bolt part, but once she grow older, she might not suited for being crazy anymore That's why I'm a bit disappointed she chose this direction when she's still in her thirties while she still can experiment being crazy and artsy a lot more in this age I just can't see her dancing and wearing crazy outfit in her forties, but I can see her being this rock chick and going back to being Stefani at that age just my opinion this really upset me, do you actually think that gaga is a fake persona stefani made to become famous? gaga and stefani live and breathe as one, she herself said this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphaz 7,956 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 16 minutes ago, Haus Allorah said: this really upset me, do you actually think that gaga is a fake persona stefani made to become famous? gaga and stefani live and breathe as one, she herself said this I truly believe that They are totally two different personas living inside one person Now tell me, do you believe her being her true-self Stefani and singing with only Piano and being normal, she might be as big as she is now? There are a bunch of "Stefanies", but there is only one Gaga Whatever stuff she said doesn't always mean the fact I've been here since The Fame era, I've heard so much nonsense from her and her contradicting herself for years I just know how to differentiate which is bullshit and which is not so yeah, if you can't see the different I don't know how to explain it to you I still love her tho, I might not like PI era, but I'll still support her and buy Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free My Mind 2,209 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 @GagaInArtyou're wrong. Kevin Parker did not write the whole song, he simply had the idea for it, a couple of melody's and a couple of lyrics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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