Gagas love 722 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Okay, this is out there but plausible. I love This Woman because she's an artist and therefore can be viewed so many ways. For those who don't know due to not having been blessed by gaga yet lol, or those who remember, The concept that was rumored before ARTPOP was that it was gonna be the decay of the popstar! It was gonna have thorns and **** like princess die. But the rumor stated that Interscope said no to the whole album, wasn't pop enough. So gaga made ARTPOP to shut them up; a super POP MAINSTREAM PRODUCED album that was almost satirical in its message. and slowly she introduced the decay through the monster vision videos where she clearly says shes rewriting her rules of fame and popstar. Then she threatens to leave the limelight and go back to bars in nyc downtown. She starts wearing ugly fashion mixmatches (that she makes look like art) and she decides shes done being a pop puppet. If you loook at some ARTPOP promotional takes, shes crying alot and shes holding wigs and shes mourning. and now shes "operating as her old self" meaning shes going back to "red and blue" years. I think her plans have always been too bring back that freedom of art in mainstream. And she mentioned it in her career during start, with her "robotic the fame" openings. And her early interludes. Shes been on a path of becoming the ideal enigmatic global celeb so that she can help other people become the artist they choose to be. and i think it stems from people not appreciating her early work due to lack of pizazz maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,038 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 ARTPOP wasn't planned to fail, it just did. (Mostly due to Troy's firing) This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
En_Sabah_Nur 9,359 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 1 minute ago, FATCAT said: ARTPOP wasn't planned to fail, it just did. (Mostly due to Troy's firing) I still wonder what that whole fiasco was REALLY about?! Hmmmmmmm 🤔🤔🤔 Egypt. W Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quartz 12,535 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, FATCAT said: ARTPOP wasn't planned to fail, it just did. (Mostly due to Troy's firing) I refuse to believe that. She failed on purpose Inside, we are really made the same. 🕊 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joschua 532 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I think she tried to tank the DWUW era on purpose... but pulled up on the throttle before it crashed and burned her completely then tried to salvage what was left with GUY. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,038 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 1 minute ago, hellothing said: I refuse to believe that. She failed on purpose It's true, why do you think she kept dancing on a broken hip? She was obviously planning it since 2008 2 minutes ago, En_Sabah_Nur said: I still wonder what that whole fiasco was REALLY about?! Hmmmmmmm 🤔🤔🤔 We'll know when Troy needs some extra cash from a tell-all book This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 159,923 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 6 minutes ago, hellothing said: I refuse to believe that. She failed on purpose The best performance art(pop) piece 🌸Flourishing and vibrant🌼 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyDelRey 21,101 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Every artist has its ups and downs, and i feel free to say that ARTPOP wasn't flop (in terms of sales/streams) it did pretty solid, ARTPOP was called flop mostly by her fans, and the media used that against Gaga, that's why i kinda understand Gaga now, when she isn't connected to us like she used to be. The only prisons that exist are ones we put each other in.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApplauseftAdele 4,730 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 This is too complicated for me to understand but it sounds reasonable so i agree slay tbh etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei 61,110 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 never forget this mourning moment Musery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,093 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I don't think she underperformed on purpose. Applause leaked, she had issues with her management, she couldn't release the video for her second video, she released G.U.Y that she funded herself and then went on tour with one performance of the single on David Letterman. It also felt like maybe she was being held back. To me it felt almost stagnant. She had done the electro-pop, avant garde outfits, choreographed routines and polished music videos before. She talked about working within a box and after C2C revealed that she couldn't write music like she used too... I mean read her Billboard interview: "I couldn’t write for two f---ing years. For ARTPOP, I was doing beats instead. I didn’t want to be near that damn [piano]. It was too emotional. I would start to play and sing, and my mind would go, ‘You are way too talented for this ****. F---, your voice sounds good. F---, that’s a beautiful chord. F---, that’s an amazing lyric. Why are you letting these people run you into the ground? When did you become the fashionable robot?’ Can’t being an artist be enough? Is talent ever the thing?" "It speaks volumes to me that I’m being recognized as Woman of the Year in 2015,” says Gaga. “This is the year I did what I wanted instead of trying to keep up with what I thought everyone else wanted from me.”" I think with ARTPOP she was trying to rebel within a very certain box she had been placed in. She was torn between trying to make music that she thought the fans/record label/management wanted and making something really less focused on the charts. You could even see it during the writing process, I remember her being like "I know I can write a song better than Bad Romance" and calling ARTPOP TFM's rave sister. I was worried that LG5 would be going down the same path when she was working with RedOne early, I was like "Noo Gaga, I don't want you to do the same thing forever, I became a fan because I could see the creativity in you and the potential for you to transform and go in 100,00 different directions". It's encouraging seeing her image transform and seeing her working with Ronson, Kevin Parker and BloodPop. It feels like she is finally focusing on making the exact music she wants to make without compromise and it feels like she is no longer focused on trying to recreate her past work, she just wants to write cool music. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miky 9,487 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I honestly think with LG5 we'll get to know some details about why and how ARTPOP failed because she might write some songs about it (definitely about parting ways with Troy etc) Too many people here with moral superiority complex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Natural 1,481 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 27 minutes ago, hellothing said: I refuse to believe that. She failed on purpose delusional Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Natural 1,481 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 18 minutes ago, Ryusei said: never forget this mourning moment her face looked so cute this era Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quartz 12,535 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Just now, Super Natural said: delusional Delusion or Illusion? Inside, we are really made the same. 🕊 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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