Paper Gangsta 6,693 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 8 hours ago, Biotic said: PI did NOT resonate with the public. Promo was lacking yes, but it's clear to see people aren't here for it. We may love it but it's not going anywhere. If she switched to the next single it wouldn't be a mess, it would make perfect sense. Just like releasing TEOG made perfect sense. As far as singles go you go with the ones people actually like. And contrary to what many are saying, most of us here actually do like PI but it makes more sense to have MR as a single. Carpool Karaoke and SNL are excellent promo spots. Well done. But this isn't really comparable at all. TEOG was smashing, it debuted at #3. Meanwhile MR probably won't even enter Hot100. We don't even know if MR is the best choice for second single. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViviLittleM 3 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Don't forget that 2011 isn't 2016, streaming wasn't included with TEOG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathanholland 5,324 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Just now, Torturo said: But this isn't really comparable at all. TEOG was smashing, it debuted at #3. Meanwhile MR probably won't even enter Hot100. We don't even know if MR is the best choice for second single. 2011 was a totally different time. Everybody was looking forward to what Gaga was going to do next and she was extremely overexposed. Many people now won't even know that Million Reasons exists unfortunately Before there was love, there was silence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtGagaPop 61,940 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Wasn't the hot 100 back in 2011 pretty much just sales? i know radio was involed to but if your sales were good you were likely to debut in the top 10 right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Gangsta 6,693 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 8 minutes ago, JonathanHolland1 said: 2011 was a totally different time. Everybody was looking forward to what Gaga was going to do next and she was extremely overexposed. Many people now won't even know that Million Reasons exists unfortunately that's exactly why there is no need to rush anything. they kinda had to with TEOG and it made sense cause song had monumentum. They won't lose anything if they relase MR as third single for example Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan2244 1,858 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 she isnt getting number 1 uk with Joanne, because of Buble. I think he will do 50-70k? gagawill 30k - 40k? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathanholland 5,324 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Just now, Torturo said: that's exactly why there is no need to rush anything. they kinda had to with TEOG and it made sense cause song had monumentum. They won't lose anything if they relase MR as third single for example Well the album is coming in two weeks so if we want her to have good first week sales she has to release a single that somehow can carry the album (although I doubt she wants it herself). If there aren't any plans for a second single soon it would be a good choice to make it a single imo. Nothing has to be rushed, they only have to sent the song to radio and she needs to perform it on SNL. A DWUW/Venus X-factor situation won't happen because she only needs a piano for MR. Before there was love, there was silence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Gangsta 6,693 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 1 minute ago, JonathanHolland1 said: Well the album is coming in two weeks so if we want her to have good first week sales she has to release a single that somehow can carry the album (although I doubt she wants it herself). If there aren't any plans for a second single soon it would be a good choice to make it a single imo. Nothing has to be rushed, they only have to sent the song to radio and she needs to perform it on SNL. A DWUW/Venus X-factor situation won't happen because she only needs a piano for MR. song can't buildup enough til the album release to do something for album Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano 31,061 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 22 minutes ago, Torturo said: But this isn't really comparable at all. TEOG was smashing, it debuted at #3. Meanwhile MR probably won't even enter Hot100. We don't even know if MR is the best choice for second single. 2011 isn't 2016. MR did smash for a promo single peak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathanholland 5,324 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Just now, Torturo said: song can't buildup enough til the album release to do something for album Two weeks and SNL/CK can make a good start. Some buildup is better then no buildup tho Before there was love, there was silence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Gangsta 6,693 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Just now, Americano said: 2011 isn't 2016. MR did smash for a promo single peak. it did good, but it didn't smash hard that there is need to change plans or anything like u all want Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathanholland 5,324 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Dark red, #8 Before there was love, there was silence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Gangsta 6,693 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, JonathanHolland1 said: Two weeks and SNL/CK can make a good start. Some buildup is better then no buildup tho yeah but that minimal start wouldn't do anything for the album, i mean it would have same impact as if she just performed it there without releasing as single. she will probably do it alongside PI anyways Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmonster 1,292 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Million reasons on spotify : 1 842 387 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViviLittleM 3 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Spotify: #25 Brazil (-10) #55 Worldwide (+67) #59 Sweden (NE) #61 Italy (+51) #65 United Kingdom (NE) #69 Norway (NE) #71 United States (NE) #74 Mexico (+100) #88 France (NE) #88 Philippines (NE) #94 Finland (NE) #108 Australia (NE) #118 Spain (+72) #128 Denmark (NE) #128 Germany (NE) #136 Netherlands (NE) #142 Canada (NE) #183 Argentina (NE) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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