ViviLittleM 3 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Why do I feel that we won't have pre orders before the release Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 50 minutes ago, NickARTPOP said: I understand her not wanting to do promo but it feels like more then that, why in the world would they remove it from the major spotify playlists, it's extremely simple, all you have to do is pay, it takes no effort from Gaga. Also, if you're not gonna perform it, wouldn't it makes sense to do a couple of commercials? And beyond that I would think she would want to perform it. Considering what we've seen Bobby do in the past, this feels intentional. I have to agree that it feels kind of intentional. Even C2C was well promoted with TV performances and plenty of interviews... After the first week or so I thought it was just incompetence or something but considering there have been no obvious emergency tactics thrown into place to try and turn this around, it seems like they aren't bothered. Which is so weird... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano 31,061 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 26 minutes ago, Harry said: I have to agree that it feels kind of intentional. Even C2C was well promoted with TV performances and plenty of interviews... After the first week or so I thought it was just incompetence or something but considering there have been no obvious emergency tactics thrown into place to try and turn this around, it seems like they aren't bothered. Which is so weird... Which sucks because she got such a warm response from US/AUS and even some Euro radio, but she can't expect them to keep playing it when she let it plunge out of the top 50 at one point with no banner, no promotional performances, and no video. And then the video finally got it up to an area where radio would still keep picking it up, just for no follow up to happen to maintain it. It's frustrating because it's hard to believe anything is happening while shes in NYC right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViviLittleM 3 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Americano said: Which sucks because she got such a warm response from US/AUS and even some Euro radio, but she can't expect them to keep playing it when she let it plunge out of the top 50 at one point with no banner, no promotional performances, and no video. And then the video finally got it up to an area where radio would still keep picking it up, just for no follow up to happen to maintain it. It's frustrating because it's hard to believe anything is happening while shes in NYC right now. She isn't in NYC anymore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano 31,061 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 9 minutes ago, ViviLittleM said: She isn't in NYC anymore Wherever she is doing whatever she's doing, it's not helping her cause. Z100 - 0 KIIS - 1 (at 2am so it won't do much for AI). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano 31,061 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 And then the worst is you look at Drake's promo and it's insane Like his movie on Apple Music inspired by his album which had massive promo. That's cray. Or what Beyonce has done with her releases, making them total events. Gaga's release feels like it's for a D-lister. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilly 475 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 i told yall the song would flop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano 31,061 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Just now, Gilly said: i told yall the song would flop I mean no one really cares that PI is doing poorly anymore, it's become an assumed fact, but it's more of how the album cycle will go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilly 475 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Just now, Americano said: I mean no one really cares that PI is doing poorly anymore, it's become an assumed fact, but it's more of how the album cycle will go. by the ways things are going with PI, I'm expecting Britney-Glory numbers. I can't believe the song is getting dropped by radio before even hitting 30m airplay (before the payola on the first day). I knew this would flop, but never this hard. It's tragic that this is all happening before the Superbowl. By the time that comes around, Joanne will be dead as ****, unless she has some single worthy songs on the album. However, judging by the descriptions, I doubt there's any. Oh well POP: 23 20 LADY GAGA Perfect Illusion 4097 3574 523 15.712 -27 Spins -350 Bullet -0.560 Audience HOT AC: 21 19 LADY GAGA Perfect Illusion 2065 1674 391 11.233 +17 Spins -136 Bullet +0.228 Audience Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishmonster 11,002 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Gilly said: by the ways things are going with PI, I'm expecting Britney-Glory numbers. I can't believe the song is getting dropped by radio before even hitting 30m airplay (before the payola on the first day). I knew this would flop, but never this hard. It's tragic that this is all happening before the Superbowl. By the time that comes around, Joanne will be dead as ****, unless she has some single worthy songs on the album. However, judging by the descriptions, I doubt there's any. Oh well POP: 23 20 LADY GAGA Perfect Illusion 4097 3574 523 15.712 -27 Spins -350 Bullet -0.560 Audience HOT AC: 21 19 LADY GAGA Perfect Illusion 2065 1674 391 11.233 +17 Spins -136 Bullet +0.228 Audience byeeeeeeeeeeeeee buy stupid love on itunes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 22 minutes ago, Americano said: Which sucks because she got such a warm response from US/AUS and even some Euro radio, but she can't expect them to keep playing it when she let it plunge out of the top 50 at one point with no banner, no promotional performances, and no video. And then the video finally got it up to an area where radio would still keep picking it up, just for no follow up to happen to maintain it. It's frustrating because it's hard to believe anything is happening while shes in NYC right now. I have no idea what they're doing. But it's safe to assume that Joanne will essentially be DOA unless there's some major promo in the coming weeks - which doesn't look likely. What a weird era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef 61,645 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Gaga is the empress of missed opportunities. Them capitalizing on the video boost was indeed a perfect illusion. For me, the lead single era is over. Did it even start? Idek, idec. But yeah, roll on October 21st Signature loading… 👹🖤 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilly 475 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Stef said: Gaga is the empress of missed opportunities. Them capitalizing on the video boost was indeed a perfect illusion. For me, the lead single era is over. Did it even start? Idek, idec. But yeah, roll on October 21st honestly, i can't say i didnt expect this. The monsters on this site are so damn deluded over Gaga's position in pop music. They still think she's a pop titan when she clearly lost that position a LONG time ago. This single, however, was her chance to rebuild her mainstream appeal, but she chose to **** it up by releasing such a messy song/video. I thought her and bobby had taken notes from the AP era and were ready to make her EXPLODE into her 30s (lol), but I feel like she's lost it. Bring on the album. It will flop, but that doesnt mean it will be bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bye 3,947 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 If Joanne indeed doesn't do well commercially then I don't know what that means for her future music. I don't mind if she doesn't want to be a big pop act anymore but I'll hate it if she won't tour much in the future. That would mean I'd just have the music and nothing else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano 31,061 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, Gilly said: honestly, i can't say i didnt expect this. The monsters on this site are so damn deluded over Gaga's position in pop music. They still think she's a pop titan when she clearly lost that position a LONG time ago. This single, however, was her chance to rebuild her mainstream appeal, but she chose to **** it up by releasing such a messy song/video. I thought her and bobby had taken notes from the AP era and were ready to make her EXPLODE into her 30s (lol), but I feel like she's lost it. Bring on the album. It will flop, but that doesnt mean it will be bad. The song and video aren't even bad. People don't need to attack quality just because promo is a disaster and kills any commercial success. lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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