JustAnotherDay 8,402 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 I was looking through the master thread looking for a song that had a rough beginning but ended up becoming a hit (sad but true) and I found one. Dark Horse by Katy Perry Spoiler Dark Horse (2013/2014) *22 weeks in Top 10* 1st Week: #17 2nd Week: #39 3rd Week: #38 4th Week: #60 5th Week: #57 6th Week: #28 7th Week: #43 8th Week: #50 9th Week: #47 10th Week: #42 11th Week: #37 12th Week: #36 13th Week: #22 14th Week: #14 15th Week: #11 16th Week: #6 17th Week: #4 18th Week: #2 19th Week: #1 - PEAK POSITION 20th Week: #1 21st Week: #1 22nd Week: #1 23rd Week: #2 24th Week: #2 25th Week: #2 26th Week: #2 27th Week: #3 28th Week: #3 29th Week: #3 30th Week: #3 31st Week: #4 32nd Week: #3 33rd Week: #5 34th Week: #5 35th Week: #6 36th Week: #6 37th Week: #7 38th Week: #11 39th Week: #11 40th Week: #11 41st Week: #12 42nd Week: #13 43rd Week: #15 44th Week: #16 45th Week: #20 46th Week: #23 47th Week: #16 48th Week: #23 49th Week: #30 50th Week: #32 51st Week: #32 52nd Week: #38 53rd Week: #43 54th Week: #46 55th Week: #47 56th Week: #43 57th Week: #49 (knocked out) If you look at Dark Horse's chart history it debuted near where Perfect Illusion debuted and had a rough time for a while, barely entering the top 40, it didn't even start rising () really until it's 13th week when it grew a huge amount and quickly entered the top ten and then number one. I feel like PI and Dark Horse are similar in that they are a shocking new sound for both artists and so it takes people a while to get used to them but once people start liking them take off. I'm not saying that PI will become as big as Dark Horse (which is Katy's biggest hit, at least in the US, to date) but I do feel like the song can take off. It might not happen but I don't think we should give up hope until the song is actually dead. I do feel like it should be noted that maybe this could happen faster for Gaga IF SHE PROMOTED was NickARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Gangsta 6,693 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 New BB RADIO peaks POP RADIO: #20 HOT AC RADIO: #19http://headlineplanet.com/home/2016/09/25/lady-gagas-perfect-illusion-joins-top-20-hot-ac-radio-ellie-goulding-enters-top-25/http://headlineplanet.com/home/2016/09/25/hailee-steinfeld-grey-tory-lanez-lady-gaga-reach-pop-radios-top-20/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Gangsta 6,693 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 9 minutes ago, NickARTPOP said: I was looking through the master thread looking for a song that had a rough beginning but ended up becoming a hit (sad but true) and I found one. Dark Horse by Katy Perry Reveal hidden contents Dark Horse (2013/2014) *22 weeks in Top 10* 1st Week: #17 2nd Week: #39 3rd Week: #38 4th Week: #60 5th Week: #57 6th Week: #28 7th Week: #43 8th Week: #50 9th Week: #47 10th Week: #42 11th Week: #37 12th Week: #36 13th Week: #22 14th Week: #14 15th Week: #11 16th Week: #6 17th Week: #4 18th Week: #2 19th Week: #1 - PEAK POSITION 20th Week: #1 21st Week: #1 22nd Week: #1 23rd Week: #2 24th Week: #2 25th Week: #2 26th Week: #2 27th Week: #3 28th Week: #3 29th Week: #3 30th Week: #3 31st Week: #4 32nd Week: #3 33rd Week: #5 34th Week: #5 35th Week: #6 36th Week: #6 37th Week: #7 38th Week: #11 39th Week: #11 40th Week: #11 41st Week: #12 42nd Week: #13 43rd Week: #15 44th Week: #16 45th Week: #20 46th Week: #23 47th Week: #16 48th Week: #23 49th Week: #30 50th Week: #32 51st Week: #32 52nd Week: #38 53rd Week: #43 54th Week: #46 55th Week: #47 56th Week: #43 57th Week: #49 (knocked out) If you look at Dark Horse's chart history it debuted near where Perfect Illusion debuted and had a rough time for a while, barely entering the top 40, it didn't even start rising () really until it's 13th week when it grew a huge amount and quickly entered the top ten and then number one. I feel like PI and Dark Horse are similar in that they are a shocking new sound for both artists and so it takes people a while to get used to them but once people start liking them take off. I'm not saying that PI will become as big as Dark Horse (which is Katy's biggest hit, at least in the US, to date) but I do feel like the song can take off. It might not happen but I don't think we should give up hope until the song is actually dead. I do feel like it should be noted that maybe this could happen faster for Gaga IF SHE PROMOTED Dark Horse was first released as a promo single so most of first weeks are before it was even released as single. But yeah if they tried it could still rebound, it's just that they aren't doing anything, but contrary they are just sabotaging it even more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glory 2,255 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 13 minutes ago, NickARTPOP said: I was looking through the master thread looking for a song that had a rough beginning but ended up becoming a hit (sad but true) and I found one. Dark Horse by Katy Perry Hide contents Dark Horse (2013/2014) *22 weeks in Top 10* 1st Week: #17 2nd Week: #39 3rd Week: #38 4th Week: #60 5th Week: #57 6th Week: #28 7th Week: #43 8th Week: #50 9th Week: #47 10th Week: #42 11th Week: #37 12th Week: #36 13th Week: #22 14th Week: #14 15th Week: #11 16th Week: #6 17th Week: #4 18th Week: #2 19th Week: #1 - PEAK POSITION 20th Week: #1 21st Week: #1 22nd Week: #1 23rd Week: #2 24th Week: #2 25th Week: #2 26th Week: #2 27th Week: #3 28th Week: #3 29th Week: #3 30th Week: #3 31st Week: #4 32nd Week: #3 33rd Week: #5 34th Week: #5 35th Week: #6 36th Week: #6 37th Week: #7 38th Week: #11 39th Week: #11 40th Week: #11 41st Week: #12 42nd Week: #13 43rd Week: #15 44th Week: #16 45th Week: #20 46th Week: #23 47th Week: #16 48th Week: #23 49th Week: #30 50th Week: #32 51st Week: #32 52nd Week: #38 53rd Week: #43 54th Week: #46 55th Week: #47 56th Week: #43 57th Week: #49 (knocked out) If you look at Dark Horse's chart history it debuted near where Perfect Illusion debuted and had a rough time for a while, barely entering the top 40, it didn't even start rising () really until it's 13th week when it grew a huge amount and quickly entered the top ten and then number one. I feel like PI and Dark Horse are similar in that they are a shocking new sound for both artists and so it takes people a while to get used to them but once people start liking them take off. I'm not saying that PI will become as big as Dark Horse (which is Katy's biggest hit, at least in the US, to date) but I do feel like the song can take off. It might not happen but I don't think we should give up hope until the song is actually dead. I do feel like it should be noted that maybe this could happen faster for Gaga IF SHE PROMOTED You got it wrong, Dark Horse was already a hit waiting before its official release. Il even beat Unconditionnally the 2nd single. Almost always top 20 iTunes since the release without radios... then it became THE smash we know.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Sky 10,913 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Predict Joanne's first week sales (USA & WW) ViviLittleM: USA: 115k, 130k SPS, WW: 300k SomethingMore: USA: 142k, 158k SPS, WW: 320k Supersonic: USA: 69k, 92k SPS, WW: 150k Gagastan95: USA: 150, 170 SPS, WW 400K. BloodyMonster: USA: 115k pure; 155k SPS, WW: 300k Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 47 minutes ago, Weasel said: It's not like doing the Superbowl will take up all her time till February. Since there isn't any choreo for the song either how hard can it be to prepare a performance. Its not like she wont do anything until february. Pi is out only for 2 weeks. If we exclude that big performance on an award show, she didnt do so many other things for born this way or Applause than she did for Pi. The succes came from somewhere else than promo. Im not delusional to think that it will be easy for Pi to become a hit, but the meltdowns dont help, especially since people are having meltdowns for all the wrong reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Gangsta 6,693 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 14 minutes ago, Florin said: Its not like she wont do anything until february. Pi is out only for 2 weeks. If we exclude that big performance on an award show, she didnt do so many other things for born this way or Applause than she did for Pi. The succes came from somewhere else than promo. Im not delusional to think that it will be easy for Pi to become a hit, but the meltdowns dont help, especially since people are having meltdowns for all the wrong reasons. BTW didn't need anything cause it was riding Imense TFM hype, evern her farting would go #1. And on top of that she also had huge promo Applause had VMAs, GMA and most importantly TV commercial which saved it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Gangsta 6,693 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 If she doesn't want to promote at least she can put preorder up, get spotify playlists back, release acoustic version on youtube and feature song in some popular commercial Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 7 minutes ago, Torturo said: If she doesn't want to promote at least she can put preorder up, get spotify playlists back, release acoustic version on youtube and feature song in some popular commercial So if she doesn't want to promo, she could at least do promo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Gangsta 6,693 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Just now, Supersonic said: So if she doesn't want to promo, she could at least do promo? yes can we make gofundme and pay her spotify playlists Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 44 minutes ago, Torturo said: BTW didn't need anything cause it was riding Imense TFM hype, evern her farting would go #1. And on top of that she also had huge promo Applause had VMAs, GMA and most importantly TV commercial which saved it And PI can be saved by Super Bowl hype or another commercial. My point was that she didnt really did that much promo until album release. Yes, she had an award show, which isnt the case now, but for other promotional stuff, especially performances, we waited more than 2 weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 So we dont have a confirmation today? Great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Gangsta 6,693 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Remember this 11/02: LADY GAGA - Born This Way: 25.083 12/02: LADY GAGA - Born This Way: 45.662 (+ 20.579) 13/02: LADY GAGA - Born This Way: 63.504 (+ 17.842) 14/02: LADY GAGA - Born This Way: 74.091 (+ 10.587) 15/02: LADY GAGA - Born This Way: 84.167 (+ 10.076) 16/02: LADY GAGA - Born This Way: 95.667 (+ 11.500) 17/02: LADY GAGA - Born This Way: 107.790 (+ 12.123) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFame Monster 8,954 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 27 minutes ago, Torturo said: Remember this 11/02: LADY GAGA - Born This Way: 25.083 12/02: LADY GAGA - Born This Way: 45.662 (+ 20.579) 13/02: LADY GAGA - Born This Way: 63.504 (+ 17.842) 14/02: LADY GAGA - Born This Way: 74.091 (+ 10.587) 15/02: LADY GAGA - Born This Way: 84.167 (+ 10.076) 16/02: LADY GAGA - Born This Way: 95.667 (+ 11.500) 17/02: LADY GAGA - Born This Way: 107.790 (+ 12.123) And then Judas happened ... Where do you get these stats? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBEY 57,109 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 2 hours ago, Glory said: You got it wrong, Dark Horse was already a hit waiting before its official release. Il even beat Unconditionnally the 2nd single. Almost always top 20 iTunes since the release without radios... then it became THE smash we know.. Dark Horse was top 5 on itunes if not #1 when Katy announced it was second single 😂 i remember Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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