The NEW Charts Thread - Track Million Reasons

[TEANUS 15,374]

So estimated points for BB100 so far based off of @Luc's points conversion

1k sales=1 point

1.2 M AI=1 point

100k streams=1 point

Perfect Illusion

~45k sales=45 points

17.064 M AI=14 points

>1.5 M streams=15 points

24 Hour Total=74 points minimum

I low balled everything, 45k sales is based off of combined data from that daily sales tracker, but to keep expectations low and allow for error, I chopped of 5k sales. 1.5 M streams is based off of 500k Spotify streams (while it actually has closer to 600k first day) and 1M YT streams on the audio (we estimated that 25-33% of Gaga's views are US based, so again it's a lowball). 

Places her at #55-51 with these points only on this week's predictions for BB100 

GREAT start

 

[ViviLittleM 3]

still slayed by the key change

[ViviLittleM 3]

Gaga's team needs to post the youtube link on her social medias already

views are down

[GagaStan95 10,478]

And I have other 2 questions to clear up my doubts:

- Does the stream count if the song is muted up?

- Apple Music is counted everywhere like is it possible that Italian chart doesn't count Apple Music? It's ****ing #3 on apple music ITALY and I wish It counts

[Paper Gangsta 6,693]

Just now, GagaStan95 said:

And I have other 2 questions to clear up my doubts:

- Does the stream count if the song is muted up?

- Apple Music is counted everywhere like is it possible that Italian chart doesn't count Apple Music? 

no

[spanishmonster 11,002]

1 minute ago, GagaStan95 said:

And I have other 2 questions to clear up my doubts:

- Does the stream count if the song is muted up?

- Apple Music is counted everywhere like is it possible that Italian chart doesn't count Apple Music? It's ****ing #3 on apple music ITALY and I wish It counts

-No

-Yes, it does count

[Gypsy Life 118,907]

10 minutes ago, TEANUS said:

So estimated points for BB100 so far based off of @Luc's points conversion

1k sales=1 point

1.2 M AI=1 point

100k streams=1 point

Perfect Illusion

~45k sales=45 points

17.064 M AI=14 points

>1.5 M streams=15 points

24 Hour Total=74 points minimum

I low balled everything, 45k sales is based off of combined data from that daily sales tracker, but to keep expectations low and allow for error, I chopped of 5k sales. 1.5 M streams is based off of 500k Spotify streams (while it actually has closer to 600k first day) and 1M YT streams on the audio (we estimated that 25-33% of Gaga's views are US based, so again it's a lowball). 

Places her at #55-51 with these points only on this week's predictions for BB100 

GREAT start

 

45k sales is too high. It's more like 35k.

1.5M streams is also too high. It's more like 1.2M

17M audience is actually 12 points, because it's 14M audience when converted to Nielsen numbers.

[TEANUS 15,374]

2 minutes ago, Gypsy Life said:

45k sales is too high. It's more like 35k.

1.5M streams is also too high. It's more like 1.2M

17M audience is actually 12 points, because it's 14M audience when converted to Nielsen numbers.

We already had someone ATRL doing conversions that Rise would not have dethroned Closer on iTunes, given that Rise did 40k first day, and that digital sales thing said 50k, when you combine the miniscle sales from Google Play, Amazon MP3, etc. it should put us around 45k, maybe a little less, maybe a little more. 

The audio video did 4 M first day WW, with even only 25% from US, that's at least 1M streams already. We have the actual data that it did minimum 500k streams on Spotify first day. When combined with Apple Music and other services it's easily at 1.5 M, 1.4 minimum

I just got the AI info from Kworb, can't argue there 

Regardless of any official stats, it's a great start!

[Paper Gangsta 6,693]

Just now, TEANUS said:

We already had someone ATRL doing conversions that Rise would not have dethroned Closer on iTunes, given that Rise did 40k first day, and that digital sales thing said 50k, when you combine the miniscle sales from Google Play, Amazon MP3, etc. it should put us around 45k, maybe a little less, maybe a little more. 

The audio video did 4 M first day WW, with even only 25% from US, that's at least 1M streams already. We have the actual data that it did minimum 500k streams on Spotify first day. When combined with Apple Music and other services it's easily at 1.5 M, 1.4 minimum

I just got the AI info from Kworb, can't argue there 

Regardless of any official stats, it's a great start!

it might be less than that

[PG lol 277]

omfg just looked at that ATRL thread 

Is something wrong with people I literally don't have a ****ing clue how #2 is in any way, shape or form 'bad'

Like, it's 2nd, it really can't do much better than that, especially considering the closer mess. 

 

[TEANUS 15,374]

1 minute ago, Torturo said:

it might be less than that

That is true, but until we have other data, the only info we have right now is 25%-35% based off of the past (I saw someone post that in this thread or the VEVO thread) 

[Saint Laurent 4,862]

2 minutes ago, Torturo said:

it might be less than that

Doubtful tho

[Gypsy Life 118,907]

6 minutes ago, TEANUS said:

We already had someone ATRL doing conversions that Rise would not have dethroned Closer on iTunes, given that Rise did 40k first day, and that digital sales thing said 50k, when you combine the miniscle sales from Google Play, Amazon MP3, etc. it should put us around 45k, maybe a little less, maybe a little more. 

The audio video did 4 M first day WW, with even only 25% from US, that's at least 1M streams already. We have the actual data that it did minimum 500k streams on Spotify first day. When combined with Apple Music and other services it's easily at 1.5 M, 1.4 minimum

I just got the AI info from Kworb, can't argue there 

Regardless of any official stats, it's a great start!

I'll give you the sales one because we can't have precise info about it.

25% from US is a lot. It's more like 10-15% at most. G.U.Y. video did around 11% first week, that's the example I remember the most.

Kworb's numbers are Mediabase numbers, but Billboard uses Nielsen numbers, which are around 20% lower.

[Runway 27,876]

3 minutes ago, PotatoBanks said:

omfg just looked at that ATRL thread 

Is something wrong with people I literally don't have a ****ing clue how #2 is in any way, shape or form 'bad'

Like, it's 2nd, it really can't do much better than that, especially considering the closer mess. 

 

If they want to make PI look bad they should at least compare it to songs that arent flops  they literally trying it with Rice and Make Me Loose

[TEANUS 15,374]

1 minute ago, Gypsy Life said:

I'll give you the sales one because we can't have precise info about.

25% from US is a lot. It's more like 10-15% at most. G.U.Y. video did around 11% first week, that's the example I remember the most.

Kworb's numbers are Mediabase numbers, but Billboard uses Nielsen numbers, which are around 20% lower.

I'll say worst case scenario for streams 1.3 M and best case 1.5 M