The NEW Charts Thread - Track Million Reasons

[ViviLittleM 3]

out on oct 21 as well

https://www.amazon.com/Wonder-You-Presley-Philharmonic-Orchestra/dp/B01LOMM8QG/ref=zg_bs_music_29

https://www.amazon.com/Pentatonix-Christmas/dp/B01LZHMGL4/ref=zg_bs_music_23

https://www.amazon.com/Nobody-But-Deluxe-Michael-Bublé/dp/B01KA93EM6/ref=zg_bs_music_37

Higher than Joanne: https://www.amazon.com/You-Want-Darker-Leonard-Cohen/dp/B01KN6XDS6/ref=zg_bs_music_4

 

[ViviLittleM 3]

Buble is 40 & 57

Joanne is 5 & 238...

[BenG 19,908]

1 minute ago, ViviLittleM said:

Buble is 40 & 57

Joanne is 6 & 238...

Buble has been out for preorder for a long time though

[ViviLittleM 3]

1 minute ago, PerfectDelusion said:

Buble has been out for preorder for a long time though

yea i know

I didn't look where he was when it was available

[BenG 19,908]

let's see how many copies are sold during buble's hsn

inb4 50k

[Americano 31,061]

15 hours ago, ViviLittleM said:

Gagawhoami is reliable

Are you sure? Their twitter is full of random guesses 

[ViviLittleM 3]

She'll debut #2 or #3 everywhere

[ViviLittleM 3]

So Bruno is on SNL tonight, I'll be sleeping, so I hope y'all US people will look at the boost for 24K Tragic.

Will he perform only one song tho? Weird.

[Luc 4,775]

1 hour ago, NickARTPOP said:

PI had radio and the biggest spotify playlists plus a couple of radio interviews, don't act like they are in the exact same situation.

 

2 hours ago, Biotic said:

@Lucwhy are you so negative about MR's chances? And how can you say it's not doing that good? It's actually doing really well... 

Because MR isn't really doing that well.

Let me show you why  

PI had hype + airplay (+radio interviews, negligible) + VEVO exposure + hot tracks exposure

MR had album pre-orders + pre-release week hype + VEVO exposure + hot tracks exposure

let's say the hype PI got from (social) media for being a new Gaga lead single is equal to the effect pre-orders and pre-release week hype has on MR. That only leaves airplay which makes the difference.

 

PI seventh day: 5,8k sales (with Hot Tracks exposure and airplay)

PI ninth day: 2,2k sales (without Hot Tracks exposure, with airplay)

this means that (very roughly) airplay and other factors accounted for 2,2k sales and Hot Tracks exposure accounted for 3,6k sales

 

MR seventh day: 3,2k sales (with Hot Tracks exposure)

 

 

So:

PI Hot Tracks effect: 3,6k sales

MR Hot Tracks effect: 3,2k sales

 

conclusion: they have similar hit potential. I know it's a very flawed method of calculating this (there's no better way to do it) but it does give an indication. I really don't see how it's doing so well as you all keep repeating to yourselves, in the hope that the era can somehow be saved by an obvious choice that somehow everyone here agrees on yet Interscope and Bobby, people whose jobs it is to manage artists and eras, haven't made that choice.

Before anyone brings up the fact that one is a promotional single and the other is an actual single, please remember that the only difference between the two is music video release and airplay. Music video for PI was not released yet and airplay is what I will try to substract from the total sales to get an image of what PI would be selling in the same situation as MR.

If MR really had hit potential it would be selling a LOT more. There's no indication yet that it is bound to be a hit like everyone here keeps saying.

[Bye 3,947]

2 minutes ago, Luc said:

 

Because MR isn't really doing that well.

Let me show you why  

PI had hype + airplay (+radio interviews, negligible) + VEVO exposure + hot tracks exposure

MR had album pre-orders + pre-release week hype + VEVO exposure + hot tracks exposure

let's say the hype PI got from (social) media for being a new Gaga lead single is equal to the effect pre-orders and pre-release week hype has on MR. That only leaves airplay which makes the difference.

 

PI seventh day: 5,8k sales (with Hot Tracks exposure and airplay)

PI ninth day: 2,2k sales (without Hot Tracks exposure, with airplay)

this means that (very roughly) airplay and other factors accounted for 2,2k sales and Hot Tracks exposure accounted for 3,6k sales

 

MR seventh day: 3,2k sales (with Hot Tracks exposure)

 

 

So:

PI Hot Tracks effect: 3,6k sales

MR Hot Tracks effect: 3,2k sales

 

conclusion: they have similar hit potential. I know it's a very flawed method of calculating this (there's no better way to do it) but it does give an indication. I really don't see how it's doing so well as you all keep repeating to yourselves, in the hope that the era can somehow be saved by an obvious choice that somehow everyone here agrees on yet Interscope and Bobby, people whose jobs it is to manage artists and eras, haven't made that choice.

Before anyone brings up the fact that one is a promotional single and the other is an actual single, please remember that the only difference between the two is music video release and airplay. Music video for PI was not released yet and airplay is what I will try to substract from the total sales to get an image of what PI would be selling in the same situation as MR.

It's very flawed indeed. PI had hype. And she delivered something different (but pop and dance and more of the same). She release MR as promo while PI was flopping. It had nothing keeping it up aside from hot tracks. Also we can gauge public reaction which has objectively been more positive than for PI. 

And its not just about saving the era. What's the use of Gaga constantly releasing the same songs (uptempo and dancey) when they're failing to leave an impact? A ballad (a good ballad) can connect to people and it might do well. That's why we want MR as a single. And I'm gonna repeat this: given Gaga's commercial success as of late MR is doing good. 

[JustAnotherDay 8,402]

1 minute ago, Luc said:

 

Because MR isn't really doing that well.

Let me show you how  

PI had hype + airplay (+radio interviews, negligible) + VEVO exposure + hot tracks exposure

MR had album pre-orders + pre-release week hype + VEVO exposure + hot tracks exposure

let's say the hype PI got from (social) media for being a new Gaga lead single is equal to the effect pre-orders and pre-release week hype has on MR. That only leaves airplay which makes the difference.

 

PI seventh day: 5,8k sales (with Hot Tracks exposure and airplay)

PI ninth day: 2,2k sales (without Hot Tracks exposure, with airplay)

this means that (very roughly) airplay and other factors accounted for 2,2k sales and Hot Tracks exposure accounted for 3,6k sales

 

MR seventh day: 3,2k sales (with Hot Tracks exposure)

 

 

So:

PI Hot Tracks effect: 3,6k sales

MR Hot Tracks effect: 3,2k sales

 

conclusion: they have similar hit potential. I know it's a very flawed method of calculating this (there's no better way to do it) but it does give an indication. I really don't see how it's doing so well as you all keep repeating to yourselves, in the hope that the era can somehow be saved by an obvious choice that somehow everyone here agrees on yet Interscope and Bobby, people whose jobs it is to manage artists and eras, haven't made that choice.

Before anyone brings up the fact that one is a promotional single and the other is an actual single, please remember that the only difference between the two is music video release and airplay. Music video for PI was not released yet and airplay is what I will try to substract from the total sales to get an image of what PI would be selling in the same situation as MR.

You're ignoring that Million Reasons has been getting much more positive review from critics and the general public and had no pre release hype, plus like you said it is a flawed method of calculating. IMO Million Reasons is a more likable single choice for the general public for a variety for reasons (which I won't go in to) and we can see that in the general public and critics reactions.

[JustAnotherDay 8,402]

When you search Million Reasons on twitter, the only hate is from pressedt stans lmao, the general public who tweet about it all love it.

[Luc 4,775]

2 minutes ago, Biotic said:

It's very flawed indeed. PI had hype. And she delivered something different (but pop and dance and more of the same). She release MR as promo while PI was flopping. It had nothing keeping it up aside from hot tracks. Also we can gauge public reaction which has objectively been more positive than for PI. 

And its not just about saving the era. What's the use of Gaga constantly releasing the same songs (uptempo and dancey) when they're failing to leave an impact? A ballad (a good ballad) can connect to people and it might do well. That's why we want MR as a single. And I'm gonna repeat this: given Gaga's commercial success as of late MR is doing good. 

PI had hype (even though that died down pretty quickly), MR had album pre-orders. It's indeed hard to compare but really, PI wasn't doing well and neither is MR. Using public reaction as an argument is even more flawed as it's two completely different situations (people had low expectations for MR as opposed to high expectations for PI) and it's not something you can really measure.

I mean, it's good that you are all so hopeful. I remember I was too, with ARTPOP (song). Then she performed it at a popular show and it went top 500 I think  but don't be surprised if MR performs less well than PI in the end when it's actually released as a single. If Interscope truly believed that MR had good hit potential they would've surely sent it to radio already and announced it as second single, like with DWUW.

[JustAnotherDay 8,402]

1.5m-2m first day views for the Live performance imo

[RickMonster98 7,462]

Are you serious? MR is just a promo single and it's still selling EVERYWHERE even after more than 1 week. Now there's no hype and no promo at all, but it's still charting good. This basically says it has the potential to become a hit. I totally can see it reaching 2x Platinum in the USA, and good sales WW.