MTV: Lady Gaga's Meat Dress Or Britney's Snake?

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2 minutes ago, Born To Slay said:

What would they be doing then? 

Being children. Going to school. Living at home with their family. Not exposing themselves to lung diseases.

Do you care so little for young children? 

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4 minutes ago, Whispering said:

Being children. Going to school. Living at home with their family. Not exposing themselves to lung diseases.

Do you care so little for young children? 

Would they really be doing that? No. Sweat shops are a symptom of the problem of global poverty, not the cause. They would not be going to school and being kids, they'd be doing something else most likely more dangerous and depressing then their sweatshop job. In most countries with sweatshops, the sweatshop is the better option. Otherwise people would not go to them, it's not like they're forced to work there, they do it by choice. That shows the other choices are worse. 

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1 minute ago, Born To Slay said:

Would they really be doing that? No. Sweat shops are a symptom of the problem of global poverty, not the cause. They would not be going to school and being kids, they'd be doing something else most likely more dangerous and depressing then their sweatshop job. In most countries with sweatshops, the sweatshop is the better option. Otherwise people would not go to them, it's not like they're forced to work there, they do it by choice. That shows the other choices are worse. 

If the other options weren't available, they would have a much better chance of doing so...at the very least, living with their parents and getting to be outside for some of the day. 

You should write that you believe in child labor across your stomach as well as vegan, since you support both. 

Sad that you care so much for animals and so little for children, but then you would have to give up your electronics and crop tops. Next time you start preaching at others about your pet causes, look at the **** you support. 

[Born To Slay 10,996]

6 minutes ago, Whispering said:

If the other options weren't available, they would have a much better chance of doing so...at the very least, living with their parents and getting to be outside for some of the day. 

You should write that you believe in child labor across your stomach as well as vegan, since you support both. 

Sad that you care so much for animals and so little for children, but then you would have to give up your electronics and crop tops. Next time you start preaching at others about your pet causes, look at the **** you support. 

They'd still be working if there weren't sweatshops, you act like sweatshops leaving would just fix everything. They'd still slave away doing hard work for little pay (worse then sweatshop pay) and have next to nothing. Sweatshops are safer and have better pay then most alternate jobs in these nations, it's been well documented. They'd be worse off if we didn't do business with them, which makes ur argument fall flat. 

If u wanna fix child labor, there has to be a better solution then just boycotting sweatshops because if they all closed down tomorrow the kids and adults of the third world would still work in **** conditions and have nothing. They'd likely be even worse off. 

I'm not trying to say I'd be opposed to a solution to fix child labor, but it's a complex issue that's less black and white then you make it sound.

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Just now, Born To Slay said:

They'd still be working if there weren't sweatshops, you act like sweatshops leaving would just fix everything. They'd still slave away doing hard work for little pay (worse then sweatshop pay) and have next to nothing. Sweatshops are safer and have better pay then most alternate jobs in these nations, it's been well documented. They'd be worse off if we didn't do business with them, which makes ur argument fall flat. 

If u wanna fix child labor, there has to be a better solution then just boycotting sweatshops because if they all closed down tomorrow the kids and adults of the third world would still work in **** conditions and have nothing. They'd likely be even worse off. 

So, you think it is okay to support it? If the demand dried up, so would the supply. You are making rationalizations because you don't want to give up the things that you want to have in life. Your rationalizations don't make the facts go away. You simply don't care. 

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Just now, Whispering said:

So, you think it is okay to support it? If the demand dried up, so would the supply. You are making rationalizations because you don't want to give up the things that you want to have in life. Your rationalizations don't make the facts go away. You simply don't care. 

So what would happen if people didn't buy from sweatshops? What would happen if they all went out business? Nothing good for the people there! Its not like good wages would just come out of no where once the sweatshops left, the people would simply work in worse conditions and have less then they do. 

So again, if u wanna end sweatshops, we need a better solution because once they disappear, people need to go to something better, not worse. Otherwise what was the point of getting rid of them in the first place? All you did was hurt the people u wanted to help.

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4 minutes ago, Born To Slay said:

So what would happen if people didn't buy from sweatshops? What would happen if they all went out business? Nothing good for the people there! Its not like good wages would just come out of no where once the sweatshops left, the people would simply work in worse conditions and have less then they do. 

So again, if u wanna end sweatshops, we need a better solution because once they disappear, people need to go to something better, not worse. Otherwise what was the point of getting rid of them in the first place? All you did was hurt the people u wanted to help.

They would close down. Children would be able to live at home and be children, go outside. 

Prices would go up. Your crop top woukd cost more. 

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8 minutes ago, Whispering said:

They would close down. Children would be able to live at home and be children, go outside. 

Prices would go up. Your crop top woukd cost more. 

Yes, prices would go up and my stuff would cost more. But they wouldn't be made in those third world nations anymore, buisnesses would leave those countries and leave the people they once employed to starve or live a harder life then they already lived. 

If you made 60 cents an hour in a sweatshop and then Americans boycotted that sweatshop and it went under, so you had to go get another job and you got stuck in a domestic job that only see pays 30 cents an hour and you worked more hours, in harsher conditions, would you really be happy that the sweatshop closed? I doubt it. 

Replacing the sweatshops with better jobs is harder then just shutting them down. That's like when Trump says he wants to repeal Obamacare but doesn't say what he will replace it with. In that case, we don't really know but for sweatshops, we know what they'll be replaced with and its not kids being kids which is the unfortunate and sad reality if the situation.

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5 minutes ago, Born To Slay said:

Yes, prices would go up and my stuff would cost more. But they wouldn't be made in those third world nations anymore, buisnesses would leave those countries and leave the people they once employed to starve or live a harder life then they already lived. 

If you made 60 cents an hour in a sweatshop and then Americans boycotted that sweatshop and it went under, so you had to go get another job and you got stuck in a domestic job that only see pays 30 cents an hour and you worked more hours, in harsher conditions, would you really be happy that the sweatshop closed? I doubt it. 

Replacing the sweatshops with better jobs is harder then just shutting them down. That's like when Trump says he wants to repeal Obamacare but doesn't say what he will replace it with. In that case, we don't really know but for sweatshops, we know what they'll be replaced with and its not kids being kids which is the unfortunate and sad reality if the situation.

Or the sweatshops would have to abide by guidelines that didn't allow people under the age of 16 to work and paid their people more...so that children didn't "have to work" and couldn't work. Instead, you support the sweatshops and industrial mines by buying goods from those areas. Your rationalizations sound like vegans trying to rationalize wearing leather, but we are talking about the abuse and oppression of children here.

No matter how much you try to paint this situation into something that you can ignore through your warped logic, you are still supporting child labor. 

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2 minutes ago, Whispering said:

Or the sweatshops would have to abide by guidelines that didn't allow people under the age of 16 to work and paid their people more...so that children didn't "have to work" and couldn't work. Instead, you support the sweatshops and industrial mines by buying goods from those areas. Your rationalizations sound like vegans trying to rationalize wearing leather, but we are talking about the abuse and oppression of children here.

No matter how much you try to paint this situation into something that you can ignore through your warped logic, you are still supporting child labor. 

That's not what's happened historically. Companies have been boycotted for this type of thing before and unfortunately, things didn't go that well. Notably when Nike was boycotted, many of the people there lost there jobs and ended up in prostitution. I learned that in school and looked into it was horrified to see that's not the only time it's happened with sweatshop boycotts. And prostituon isn't the harshest fate for the people there that lost their jobs. 

Im not sure what the solution is to this problem but I don't think boycotting alone will solve it, it's been tried before with horrific results. 

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