MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 We all blame Katy for working with Dr. Luke and how if she continues to do that she is a rape supporter. But, do we forget that Gaga worked with R. Kelly, a pedophile who was in jail because of a sex tape with an underage girl? She also worked with Terry Richardson, who has sexually assaulted models who were working with him. Thought? Opinions? Spoiler I'm not shading Gaga, but I think we gotta cool off with Katy/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
venusfly 17,885 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 This thread is gonna get messier than the guy who leaked his own nudes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altair 2,000 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 i agree that we have to cool off katy. sometimes we just have to separate the artist form the art. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted August 24, 2016 Author Share Posted August 24, 2016 Just now, LG said: This thread is gonna get messier than the guy who leaked his own nudes Spoiler it's already flopping Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pharamon 6,839 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 I totally agree! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lona Delery 7,214 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 because we shade Gaga for working with them as well. Sometimes it feels like I've got a war in my mind, I wanna get off but I keep riding the ride Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,240 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Ok, but there are many here who didn't agree with Gaga's choices in associating w/ those two disgusting people. It is ok to have an independent thought that has nothing to do with stan wars and other such nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted August 24, 2016 Author Share Posted August 24, 2016 1 minute ago, freebit said: Ok, but there are many here who didn't agree with Gaga's choices in associating w/ those two disgusting people. It is ok to have an independent thought that has nothing to do with stan wars and other such nonsense. We say that Katy is a rape supporter. Was Gaga a pedophilia supporter when she worked with r kelly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klonoa 2,194 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted August 24, 2016 Author Share Posted August 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, Lona Delery said: because we shade Gaga for working with them as well. no, we forget that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lona Delery 7,214 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Just now, MaryJaneHolland said: no, we forget that Every time smn opens a thread about Gaga working with R Kelly or Terry she gets bashed for it. There will always be those delusional fans who defend her, just ignore them Sometimes it feels like I've got a war in my mind, I wanna get off but I keep riding the ride Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,240 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 10 minutes ago, MaryJaneHolland said: We say that Katy is a rape supporter. Was Gaga a pedophilia supporter when she worked with r kelly? Is there really a "we" here? This fanbase is made up of different people and is not a monolith. I'm not sure if I would go as far as to say either woman is a "rape supporter" as it implies they actually think rape is fine and dandy- semantics, I know, but whatever. Helping these dudes prosper is definitely not a good look. Why keep our opinions quiet and censor them just because of stan wars? Why be "stans" in the first place? Stanning requires you look at your idol and have to agree with every decision they make, which is just madness. Having a conversation and stating that Gaga was wrong to work with those guys, and that it would be very disappointing to see Katy continue her relationship and any affiliation with Luke and his company shouldn't be a stan war thing. That is ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMonster 1,037 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 I don't necessarily see Katy as being a rape supporter. But that still doesn't mean she has talent the way threads are popping up on this site. She's never been a blimp in my mind, but it's like this place is a Gaga Katy board Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Who blames Katy for working with a pedophile? I usually blame her because she works with an awful producer that loves recycling. And excuse me for saying that but I feel that Richardson is even worse. I hope that we will never see him near Gagz again. ANd the worse is that it has always felt more like he is using Gaga. Gaga was always doing over the top and unusually dirty things when he was around her... As for R.Kelly, I am not a fan but he is not the first one to have sex with underage girls (not that I approve but he didn't rape her). Also he went to jail so he received the punishment of our society. He still has the right to live and try again... And we have judged Gaga for working with Richardson, most people hate him. The fact is as I said above that more or less Gaga was a victim of his bad influence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellatrix 34,778 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Isn't there a difference tho? I mean, R. Kelly went to jail and has atoned for his crime while Dr. Luke has not. Are you not worth a second chance after you've been to jail? Lose control. Let go and fall. Do you get the satisfaction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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