Ronnie 6,008 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 6 minutes ago, AntiPotCrusader said: What if they're not though? Then her team learned nothing from the promotional devistation that was ARTPOP....or the lack of promotion I should say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorothy Gale 7,575 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Just now, Ronnie said: Then her team learned nothing from the promotional devistation that was ARTPOP....or the lack of promotion I should say. A single can be promoted without the VMAs, and the VMAs doesn't guarantee a smash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie 6,008 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 1 minute ago, AntiPotCrusader said: A single can be promoted without the VMAs, and the VMAs doesn't guarantee a smash. Come on..... She releases a new single after 3 years in the same time frame as the VMAs and she doesn't take that opportunity to create something magical on the historic VMA stage!? She would be ignorant not to. Everything is lined up perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaTheExplorer 3,053 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I will comment the most delusional post ever made on GGD: Pigretz tweet gave me some hopes for an early release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorothy Gale 7,575 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 10 minutes ago, Ronnie said: Come on..... She releases a new single after 3 years in the same time frame as the VMAs and she doesn't take that opportunity to create something magical on the historic VMA stage!? She would be ignorant not to. Everything is lined up perfectly. Everything isn't lining up when the single is being put out next month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
L E O 6,035 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 7 minutes ago, GagaTheExplorer said: I will comment the most delusional post ever made on GGD: Pigretz tweet gave me some hopes for an early release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fede ARTPOP 6,737 Posted August 17, 2016 Author Share Posted August 17, 2016 2 hours ago, Bellatrix said: That didn't work very well since people now are speculating if she lied about September to surprise release it with VMAs OMG ..your signature...they my 3 faves too . May I copy that sig? MAYHEM / ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellatrix 34,796 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Just now, fede ARTPOP said: OMG ..your signature...they my 3 faves too . May I copy that sig? Sure, go ahead! They're the best Lose control. Let go and fall. Do you get the satisfaction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie 6,008 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Just now, AntiPotCrusader said: Everything isn't lining up when the single is being put out next month. So she can't premier the single on stage before it's studio version is officially released days after? The song is obviously ready to go. What about an Apple Music exclusive before an overall release in September? Everything has been very vague at this point. I'm just stating the most beneficial way of promoting what seems to be a dance floor club banger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehanyo 4,251 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 27 minutes ago, Ronnie said: Then her team learned nothing from the promotional devistation that was ARTPOP....or the lack of promotion I should say. Oh, please. She opened the VMAs in 2013 and had a ****ing 2-hour Muppet Holiday Spectacular. I saw buses all over NYC covered in the album art. Her album launch party was reported on as being over-to-top crazy and expensive and "the end of huge budget events" in the music industry. The public just wasn't here for ARTPOP and its EDM sound. Bruno Mars' "Uptown Funk" was smashing and made funk/retro cool again (also explains the curious rise of Megan Trainor). The hip injury honestly delayed ARTPOP too late. It should have come out much sooner, and I think people really would have received it differently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie 6,008 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 16 minutes ago, thehanyo said: Oh, please. She opened the VMAs in 2013 and had a ****ing 2-hour Muppet Holiday Spectacular. I saw buses all over NYC covered in the album art. Her album launch party was reported on as being over-to-top crazy and expensive and "the end of huge budget events" in the music industry. The public just wasn't here for ARTPOP and its EDM sound. Bruno Mars' "Uptown Funk" was smashing and made funk/retro cool again (also explains the curious rise of Megan Trainor). The hip injury honestly delayed ARTPOP too late. It should have come out much sooner, and I think people really would have received it differently. The 2013 VMA performance was last minute, correct? Didn't they switch the lead single before it's release? Most likely causing chaos around original ideas for promo and performances. The Muppets promo was out of place for the material on the album and honestly how many people are still interested in them anymore? Buses covered in album artwork for promo in NYC is just that...in NYC, not national. And the album release party was more for us Monsters and not the GP. Now that she has solid management behind her, I want to see some solid proper promo. She too good to not have a well polished era this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abductee 162 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 37 minutes ago, Ronnie said: The 2013 VMA performance was last minute, correct? Didn't they switch the lead single before it's release? Most likely causing chaos around original ideas for promo and performances. The Muppets promo was out of place for the material on the album and honestly how many people are still interested in them anymore? Buses covered in album artwork for promo in NYC is just that...in NYC, not national. And the album release party was more for us Monsters and not the GP. Now that she has solid management behind her, I want to see some solid proper promo. She too good to not have a well polished era this time. The performance was last minute because the VMAs forced her to change it. It's well established that there was an entire different performance planned but MTV thought it was too dark and too artsy and told her she couldn't do it, which is exactly why she doesn't trust them now. They messed up the first big performance of ARTPOP and she wants to prove she doesn't need them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehanyo 4,251 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, abductee said: The performance was last minute because the VMAs forced her to change it. It's well established that there was an entire different performance planned but MTV thought it was too dark and too artsy and told her she couldn't do it, which is exactly why she doesn't trust them now. They messed up the first big performance of ARTPOP and she wants to prove she doesn't need them. Gaga doesn't hold grudges. Look at Madonna. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie 6,008 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 1 minute ago, abductee said: The performance was last minute because the VMAs forced her to change it. It's well established that there was an entire different performance planned but MTV thought it was too dark and too artsy and told her she couldn't do it, which is exactly why she doesn't trust them now. They messed up the first big performance of ARTPOP and she wants to prove she doesn't need them. In any case, nobody knows sh*t but Gaga herself but one thing we do know for sure is how sad the ARTPOP era played out with there not being any good management and so many different things being changed and flipped and flopped and switched and cancelled. I honestly believe she got a little too big for her britches and didn't take advice from people who were trying to tell her no and when she finally listening?.... it was too late. She clearly ran out of ideas with that record and the music was not her strongest but it will always hold a special piece of my heart. Let's raise a glass to a new era! 🍻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 2 hours ago, abductee said: I think the big issue here is that everyone wants her to perform for the sake of "promo," implying they still expect the first single to be some huge radio smash for some reason. (Spoiler: it most likely won't be) Most people view the VMAs as a joke nowadays, their ratings continually drop (Hotel's premiere last year was watched by more people than the VMAs), and she doesn't need to get shuffled in with other #BigSingle performances. I'd be much more interested in seeing a well executed release (Video, interviews, magazine cover, etc) than her be forced to water down her vision again like 2013. What makes you think it won't slay radio? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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