yourfaves 317 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 2 hours ago, M I M I Z said: He should know their rules before he came to the UAE. Every country has rules and regulations that you should obey and respect if you want to be in the country. Gigi is a woman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojuun 4,159 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 1 minute ago, yourfaves said: Gigi is a woman. He's a troll. Report him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noir 17,406 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Disgusting, stupidly I'm surrounded by such open minded people (including trans friends) that I often forget transphobia is still an issue but this is so wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 16 hours ago, mattwiththehat said: that's the first thing that came to your mind with this? that's parallel to blaming a rape victim for dressing provocatively. Lol absolutely not. If you know trans people are banned from a country, a country that also has a ban on all LGBT lifestyles, why would you go and break their laws? That parallels blaming a person for jumping into a shark-invested body of water. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebedesign 1,665 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Wow the world is still a ****ed up place. This is sad. It’s not a fedora you **** Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tresor 1,649 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 1 hour ago, MJHolland said: Lol absolutely not. If you know trans people are banned from a country, a country that also has a ban on all LGBT lifestyles, why would you go and break their laws? That parallels blaming a person for jumping into a shark-invested body of water. You missed the point. You're talking about how Gigi should have known the laws and could of prevented this from happening by not going....DUH. This goes without saying. I bring the rape argument into this because many people point fingers at victims ("she should have known it was unsafe there" = "she shouldn't have been wearing that") when the conversation needs to be redirected at the aggressors. I'm not bringing rape into this for the sake of it - there is a clear similarity. Your comparison to jumping into shark infested waters is completely wrong. Sharks are innocent animals, obviously it's not the sharks fault in that context...These airport officials are hateful and dangerous people following discriminatory and immoral laws and we need to focus on condemning THEM, not blaming the LGBT individuals who are being subjected to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 @Morphine Prince update http://www.mtv.com.au/irl/news/update-gigi-gorgeous-released-from-dubai-airport-custody https://instagram.com/p/BI6i9kIhBTI/ FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 106,174 Posted August 10, 2016 Author Share Posted August 10, 2016 OP updated. She was released after 5 hours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 42 minutes ago, mattwiththehat said: You missed the point. You're talking about how Gigi should have known the laws and could of prevented this from happening by not going....DUH. This goes without saying. I bring the rape argument into this because many people point fingers at victims ("she should have known it was unsafe there" = "she shouldn't have been wearing that") when the conversation needs to be redirected at the aggressors. I'm not bringing rape into this for the sake of it - there is a clear similarity. Your comparison to jumping into shark infested waters is completely wrong. Sharks are innocent animals, obviously it's not the sharks fault in that context...These airport officials are hateful and dangerous people following discriminatory and immoral laws and we need to focus on condemning THEM, not blaming the LGBT individuals who are being subjected to them. Yeah or you know they're not villains like you have completely assumed and made up in your head and rather they are people just doing their job? She knew it was illegal for her to be there in a country where homosexuality and being trans is illegal. They knew it. You knew it. I knew it. We all knew the fact that she's setting herself up for this traveling to the Middle East. Like best case scenario is that she goes undetected breaking the law. Look buddy, I'm a huge supporter of civil disobedience to fight Unjust laws as long as the protestors are not violent. However, I would not advise ANYONE to practice civil disobedience in a conservative Mid East country where the penalty for homosexuality is death!!! Also on that note, you do realize that people who actually practice civil disobedience understand they will be arrested, right? That was MLK's whole thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tresor 1,649 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 26 minutes ago, MJHolland said: Yeah or you know they're not villains like you have completely assumed and made up in your head and rather they are people just doing their job? She knew it was illegal for her to be there in a country where homosexuality and being trans is illegal. They knew it. You knew it. I knew it. We all knew the fact that she's setting herself up for this traveling to the Middle East. Like best case scenario is that she goes undetected breaking the law. Look buddy, I'm a huge supporter of civil disobedience to fight Unjust laws as long as the protestors are not violent. However, I would not advise ANYONE to practice civil disobedience in a conservative Mid East country where the penalty for homosexuality is death!!! Also on that note, you do realize that people who actually practice civil disobedience understand they will be arrested, right? That was MLK's whole thing. Whether or not she or you or I are aware of the laws and repercussions does not matter, this is irrelevant to the point i'm making. Obviously we should advise LGBT individuals to avoid these areas, this goes without saying for obvious reasons. But when they do go, and are prosecuted under these immoral laws or even killed in some cases, our first thought cannot be "why were they there in the first place?" That question is pointless, frames the victim as the one doing something "wrong" and deflects the conversation away from what it needs to be - condemning these discriminatory laws, lawmakers and systems from existing at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thank you Gaga 146 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 My jaw litterly ****ing dropped when I saw this. Personally my parents are born in Lebanon but came to Canada and had me. Every time I visit Lebanon, I cry so hard. I hate it there. People are so judgemental there, Especially when it comes to the LGBT community.I`m an untransitioned Transgender and I live in a trans phobic house so I understand her struggles. Thats why I dislike/ disapprove of the middle eastern. I believe in a glamorous life Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thank you Gaga 146 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Some of you guys are so rude. This is Gaga daily, we are a ****ing family. Don`t disrespect others just because you have the platform to do it, be kind. I believe in a glamorous life Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katsuki Bakugo 9,788 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Since when was Transitioning -imitation. Its not like it was Rupaul going to Dubai, she is a woman ffs! If All You Ever Do Is Look Down On People, You Won't Be Able To Recognize Your Own Weaknesses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katsuki Bakugo 9,788 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 1 minute ago, Thank you Gaga said: Some of you guys are so rude. This is Gaga daily, we are a ****ing family. Don`t disrespect others just because you have the platform to do it, be kind. They don't have a platform, they just think they do. If All You Ever Do Is Look Down On People, You Won't Be Able To Recognize Your Own Weaknesses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 3 hours ago, mattwiththehat said: Whether or not she or you or I are aware of the laws and repercussions does not matter, this is irrelevant to the point i'm making. Obviously we should advise LGBT individuals to avoid these areas, this goes without saying for obvious reasons. But when they do go, and are prosecuted under these immoral laws or even killed in some cases, our first thought cannot be "why were they there in the first place?" That question is pointless, frames the victim as the one doing something "wrong" and deflects the conversation away from what it needs to be - condemning these discriminatory laws, lawmakers and systems from existing at all. She's not a victim, she willingly and knowingly broke a law and flew with a passport that was outdated. Your arguments are boringly dramatic and awfully flawed so I'm going to stop responding at this point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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