colours 128 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Just now, Tumblr said: Sex and Gender are 2 different things you absolute dope. You keep saying 'XY chromosones' as an excuse when in this case it is NAWT valid. Gigi is a beautiful woman while you're a filthy ugly troll. Kii You don't understand. If I see a man walking around that doesn't fit the "masculine" characteristic that one would say his GENDER is "male", his sex is still male. Throwing around these terms now is just stupid. You're trying to bring up the argument that everyone is saying in 2015-2016 "Oh well that's gender and that's sex". It's all so stupid. If you were born with an xy chromosome you're a man and if you're born with a xx chromosome you're a woman and there's no changing that once you're born. And you don't have to call it a man or a woman if you're so offended. Call it Thing 1 and Thing 2. Or Red and Blue. Whatever the ****. Yes, you can call yourself whatever you want, get surgeries, dress how society has taught you the opposite sex/gender dresses, but if you're born xy, you are still xy, even if you want to be xx. Holy ****. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic 11,922 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 11 minutes ago, colours said: No, lol. I'm not saying anything about either. My brother and I have xy chromosomes, my sister has xx. That is how I define gender. Your sex is Male. Your sister is Female. Your genders however are a mix of both masculine and feminine traits. Gender and sex are two different things. XY/XX chromosomes would relate to your biological sex, not gender. I understand, whilst I don't agree, with what you're saying but I think you're using gender/sex as interchangeable when they're not. I also noticed you refer to this as a 2015/2016 construct however this has been discussed in the early 19th century. Freud even spoke about this. The hardest thing in this world is to live in it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemeLarell 931 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 13 minutes ago, Tumblr said: Gender is a social construct dumbass. Gigi IS a woman. Using he and his pronouns makes everyone realise you're a stupid dumbass that can't understand simple concepts. 8 minutes ago, colours said: Obviously, lol. I know that humans made up these terms to easily categorize things and have a reasoning. But at the end of the day, science is science. What humans have decided to call "males" have xy chromosomes, and what they have decided to call "females" have xx chromosomes, which make the two different. So one is one thing and one is another. The one thing has certain characteristics and the other has others. Hm how could I make this easier? Oh ****. I've taken a sex and gender class and I have to say you are both correct but you guys are not understanding each other. Take a deep breath and just talk it out. I don't wanna see you guys fight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMonster 1,806 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 This is dumb. Who goes to a country without searching up the laws ?!?! I cannot believe that Gigi lives in such small bubble that she does not even consider possibility that being transgender is illegal. Honey, they still punish LGBTs in different ways in many countries.... Next time, she will try going to Iran with a bottle of champagne since transgenderism is legal in Iran. I expect this level of cleverness from Gigi. Edit: I do not say that laws concerning LGBT in many reactionary countries are okay in anyways. I am gay myself and obviously I will not go to Saudi Arabia because logic which is what Gigi's action lacks... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colours 128 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 8 minutes ago, teo said: And this is ok, as long as defining your gender goes you are free to use whatever criterias. BUT you don't get to define it for other people. If she says she's a woman and the law has no issues with it it's really not your place to do. I can define anyone how I want because that doesn't determine who they are just like anyone can define me as they please because that doesn't actually define who I really am to myself either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teo 609 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 1 minute ago, colours said: I can define anyone how I want because that doesn't determine who they are just like anyone can define me as they please because that doesn't actually define who I really am to myself either. Ok then, you're just being rude. And you know it very well. You also knew very well the reaction you were going to get and you said those things anyway. Some members have been very rude with you too and this is not ok. But unless you enjoy arguing idk why you keep going since you already said your piece multiple times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumblr 1,846 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 20 minutes ago, colours said: You don't understand. If I see a man walking around that doesn't fit the "masculine" characteristic that one would say his GENDER is "male", his sex is still male. Throwing around these terms now is just stupid. You're trying to bring up the argument that everyone is saying in 2015-2016 "Oh well that's gender and that's sex". It's all so stupid. If you were born with an xy chromosome you're a man and if you're born with a xx chromosome you're a woman and there's no changing that once you're born. And you don't have to call it a man or a woman if you're so offended. Call it Thing 1 and Thing 2. Or Red and Blue. Whatever the ****. Yes, you can call yourself whatever you want, get surgeries, dress how society has taught you the opposite sex/gender dresses, but if you're born xy, you are still xy, even if you want to be xx. Holy ****. Trans has been around for decades (maybe even more) so how are these terms only 2015-2016 related? Bye boo Mariah - Ariana - Rihanna Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 its awful that they did this to her but i'm not shocked, the middle east is awful idk why she would go, it's like walking into the lions den https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
URFUTUREFAV 1,292 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 It's funny how hypocrite are this country's laws like... they're all about that "yeah we're a muslim country bla bla bla" when it's full of whores, bars, alcohol, and all of this stuff... Like wtf? It's so stupid to base a country's laws on a religion. People hate what they don't understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colours 128 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Tumblr said: Trans has been around for decades (maybe even more) so how are these terms only 2015-2016 related? Bye boo I said the argument that was brought up. Not terms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 75,147 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 30 minutes ago, ryanripley said: its awful that they did this to her but i'm not shocked, the middle east is awful idk why she would go, it's like walking into the lions den Sure ryan, because America is such a safe and happy place chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Just now, littlepotter said: Sure ryan, because America is such a safe and happy place safer than the middle east, that's fo sure https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 75,147 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 1 minute ago, ryanripley said: safer than the middle east, that's fo sure There's a huge difference between 'america is safer fo sure' and 'lion's den'. It's really not the Hunger Games arena the media makes it out to be chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 11 hours ago, Grace said: why would a trans person go to the middle east to begin with Tel Aviv says hello Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 37 minutes ago, ryanripley said: its awful that they did this to her but i'm not shocked, the middle east is awful idk why she would go, it's like walking into the lions den Also Beirut is also lgbt friendly. not as much as Tel aviv obviously, but never the less! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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