RAMROD 110,329 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 But...., Gaga is supposed to be every Icons! (???) (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ✧*:･ﾟ What it meant to be content with you (*´艸｀*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagafan2017 103 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 17 minutes ago, T E A said: she literally broke herself for her art and her fans. give her a break, jesus. Madonna barely drew breath for 13 years until she had children...Taylor has been hustling for 10 pushing harder with each album...it was 8 years before Rihanna stopped...are you honestly happy that gaga took the foot off the gas after only 4 years??? Do you not thinks that's tragic. She was fully well from the hip by late 2013/early 2014 anyway and she's still not prioritising music in her life years later so it obviously wasn't her injury that was the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanasNerfGun 4,679 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 9 hours ago, Helxig said: I'm starting to see her eras as less of a community-building experience, and more of a purge and cleanse. Each time she releases an album, old fans leave, and new fans arrive. You're so right though! The amount of variance between what each fan wants from her is insane. You have people wanting everything from the bubblegum EDM she started with 8 years ago, to heavy metal, to groovy disco. You have people who hate each look, and who love each look. And it's all just because she does so much with her sound and look. She experiments with ev-er-y-thing. Just think about how different each era was, how she gained fans from each era, and how the fans from each era want her to keep doing what they fell in love with. There's too much differing opinion now for her to pay attention. I mean from BTW to ARTPOP alone was quite an extreme change really: What a post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardevoir 9,901 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 2 hours ago, Luke Putres said: One of the things that bothers me is the way her haters constantly say she panders to her fans...since 2013 its been the opposite bordering on vindictive! Even after 8 months of begging tweets and requests at every meet and greet she didn't release a dvd of artrave or at the very least put it on amazon, netflix or hulu...and then to put salt into the wound released one for cheek to cheek that no one asked for! Let alone her being heavily online during december 2013 reading thousands of pleading messages and still couldnt bring her self to self fund (this is a woman worth 200m plus) a simple solo reshoot of dwyw. Then there was the taunting of us with partynauous...still didnt get that one?? Would meteors fall from the sky and babies die if she put 1 or 2 damn unreleased tracks on soundcloud or youtube. She's overly controlling over her material...she should be like Bowie or Prince and be as laid back, creative and prolific as possible. Put music first, treat it as a vocation and create, create, create. I don't think she should pander to her audience but there should be a bit of give and take. It's normal that if you let fans down with a video and an app you should provide something else as a gesture. That's normal behavior in every day life too. Don't forget she never apologized for anything that went wrong with ARTPOP all we got was that odd cryptic message on lm.com and a passive aggressive tweet when her fans got frustrated about an app SHE had promised...not us HER. It was like she blamed us for her mistakes. You clearly dont know what you are talking about. She can't just leak songs just like that. It's not 100% her property and she would have to pay a lot of money to do so, not talking about law aspects. And why the hell would she apologize for ARTPOP situation? She owes nothing to anyone in the first place. Sugar, spice, and everything nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avalon x 4,166 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 38 minutes ago, Luke Putres said: It's easier to abandon projects and let people down when you are rich. All over the world there are poor people who suffer from depression but have to keep working otherwise they won't meet their rent or support their family's. I should know I suffer too...when you have responsibilities you have to just suck it up. Doctors won't even prescribe pills unless you are willing to fight alongside them...they don't work on their own. It's easier to criticize people when they're rich and famous. It's easier to think they have it all and they never get depressed, no insecurities, no fears, nothing to upset them.. all dreams fulfilled, no other care in the world, everything imaginable at the tip of their fingers or just one phone call away. it's easier to think money is the answer to everything when they're rich. EVERYONE has struggles, they're not the same and some are worse than others.. but just because they're rich doesn't make their lives perfect. And you're saying this because of the ARTPOP app and the DWUW video? She has worked her a*s off on her tours and broke her f*cking hip on the BTWB tour and while she was depressed and recovering she worked on ARTPOP because it was her promise to the fans. She couldn't walk and had to be in bed majority of the time.. but she rehearsed for the Applause video WHILE LAYING DOWN. You can't look through a window and just assume you see everything. 21 minutes ago, Luke Putres said: Gaga used to think like I did...when she performed on idol she had a huge fever, she once gave an interview the day her dad was having heart surgery and she stayed up all night to rehearse for the Brit awards that time...let alone her flying from Europe to nyc and back again in mere days for her perfume launch. She's lost her nerve since those days....sadly. But what did it get her tho? Fans who ditched her for doing an album they've been asking for? Fans who don't understand her and how much her work means to her? Fans who don't care about her dreams and her roots? Fans who only like her when she gives them what they want and exactly how they want them? We're lucky she hasn't quit music altogether. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzcutSeason 3,307 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Saw this photo above. This was my fav photo from the ARTPOP Era because its so plain yet like AMAZING. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hELXIG 43,375 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 31 minutes ago, BuzzcutSeason said: Saw this photo above. This was my fav photo from the ARTPOP Era because its so plain yet like AMAZING. (I posted that ) and I have always loved this picture so much. It might sound stupid, but this picture means a lot to me. It was after the crazy roller coaster ride of the BTW era, with all it's darkness and extravagance, that she disappeared completely after breaking her hip and cancelling shows, and we didn't know if she'd come back at all. Then she came back with just this image. So totally different, unique, clean, pure, beautiful, futuristic. Nothing like the BTW era, the era that I fell in love with her art, but still amazing. I remember being so excited to see a new era begin, and to follow it as a fan right from the beginning. I remember being totally encapsulated by this image and how powerful this one picture felt to me at the time. I'll never forget it was soon after that the snippets came, and the Swinefest, and she was BACK in full force. Fashion, imagery, beauty, inspiring uniqueness, ARTPOP! I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermit 15,807 Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 I guess this thread is needed, after the news we've recieved today. “For me, insanity is super sanity. The normal is psychotic. Normal means lack of imagination, lack of creativity.” ― Jean Dubuffet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 5 hours ago, Luke Putres said: Gaga used to think like I did...when she performed on idol she had a huge fever, she once gave an interview the day her dad was having heart surgery and she stayed up all night to rehearse for the Brit awards that time...let alone her flying from Europe to nyc and back again in mere days for her perfume launch. She's lost her nerve since those days....sadly. That's not nerve, that's insecurity. Now, she is at a place where she can take care of herself and her family. If you hate everything she has done in the past few years and everything she is doing now so much....there is a simple answer for that! Gaga isn't going to be the person that YOU want her to be. She is going to be the person she wants to be. It's time to accept that or move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzcutSeason 3,307 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 ARTPOP wasn't that great, right now her fans are just bored waiting for music. You can't change that, and theirs no reason to. Like this site wouldn't have a purpose. ARTPOP was a giant meltdown but LG5 won't be if its a good album. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 5 hours ago, Luke Putres said: Madonna barely drew breath for 13 years until she had children...Taylor has been hustling for 10 pushing harder with each album...it was 8 years before Rihanna stopped...are you honestly happy that gaga took the foot off the gas after only 4 years??? Do you not thinks that's tragic. She was fully well from the hip by late 2013/early 2014 anyway and she's still not prioritising music in her life years later so it obviously wasn't her injury that was the problem. Then go stan them, instead of spending time bitching about an artist who you don't approve of on their forum.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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