Decodekid 26,934 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 this thread is still active? this thread is memorable Long Live Gretchen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloZell Green 11,723 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 https://mobile.twitter.com/JosephKahn/status/755145643832713216 I cannot believe this, it's getting out of control Lady Gaga | Shakira Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas P 18,469 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I actually feel really bad cuz I was one of the ppl bashing Kanye, but now I'm just pissed at Taylor. The world is a glorious place. Gaga plz keep out of jt. I’m a simple guy to please, if you like Melodrama, we chill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagafan2017 103 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I miss when gaga was provocative and edgy like kanye...she completely lost all desire to work the media and push buttons since 2013. She's so boring....even when she comments about recent events it's dull rehearsed and cliche. No passion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LePetitGAGABLover 21,234 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, Luke Putres said: I miss when gaga was provocative and edgy like kanye...she completely lost all desire to work the media and push buttons since 2013. She's so boring....even when she comments about recent events it's dull rehearsed and cliche. No passion. I agree. But lets just wait until LG5. Hopefully we get more Gaga and less Lady. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 1 hour ago, PaperIz said: I think she's definitely at fault for much of what's happening. She's obviously not innocent and no telling how much she's lied about. That being said I don't know if she really did know about the "that bitch" part so I'll cut her some slack there but most of what's happening is her own doing. I still love and support her though. She might be a snake, but she's my snake 🐍 I want to know about the bitch thing. Because she does reference the idea that she became known after that, right? As in the 'making her famous' idea. But I don't think Taylor would cling to that point and so openly express it if Kanye actually did tell her about that line. Otherwise Kim could just post that part too. Idk if he just changed the line or what... But I honestly don't think he meant badly by the comment. You can tell by the call that he thinks (or maybe 'thought' is now more appropriate) highly of her so he clearly wasn't trying to cause any offence... He's used the word 'bitch' in reference to Kim before as well. Of course it's supposed to be provocative but it seems to me she's using that one pitfall in Kim's exposing to justify herself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBEY 57,109 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Did anything new happened today? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReidOne 12,427 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 6 hours ago, Andrew Warhola said: @Ibo I thought so, too, at first, because there wasn't enough footage but then someone shared this: Hide contents Towards the end, she's explicitly acknowledging the whole "Kanye taking credit for her fame" line. Now it's obviously unclear whether Kanye conveniently decided to leave out the part where he calls her a "bitch", which I agree would make a difference in this context. BUT this is what Taylor says: Taylor: But right after the song comes out I'm gonna be on a Grammy red carpet and they're gonna ask me about it and I'm gonna be like, he called me. Taylor: ... Awesome that you're so outspoken and it's gonna be like, yea, she does, it made her famous! It's more provocative to say "might still have sex". Taylor's speech at the Grammys Taylor: There are going to be people along the way who try to undercut your success or take credit for your accomplishments or your fame. She completely contradicts herself as @Bebe already explained somewhere in this hotchpotch of a thread. And as many people have noted, her excuse on instagram revolves around the fact that he used the word "bitch", when in reality her speech at the Grammys focused on the fact that he took credit for her fame. Which she agreed to because she probably considered it to be an excellent publicity stunt or what not and then decided to throw him under the bus during her speech. Why didn't she come clean? Why didn't she admit to having that conversation with Kanye, she could have easily explained how he changed the lyrics without her permission and that she had a problem with the word "bitch" and not the rest of the lines she had initially given a pass on? My guess is she was definitely mad when she heard the final version and never thought she'd have to reckon with a) the general public taking his side, given their whole Grammy history b) Kanye having recorded their conversation and/or c) making it public (because it's still illegal, if I'm not mistaken). But yeah, whichever angle you look at it, this definitely doesn't look good for Taylor. So much yes!!!!!! This is exactly my thoughts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatislaps 34,759 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBEY 57,109 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Can people give me links of what kim said, totally lost on the most recent developments and this 57 page thread is def not helping Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGD 11,916 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 The timing of everything makes this seem like a PR stunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperIz 7,308 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 1 hour ago, Harry said: I want to know about the bitch thing. Because she does reference the idea that she became known after that, right? As in the 'making her famous' idea. But I don't think Taylor would cling to that point and so openly express it if Kanye actually did tell her about that line. Otherwise Kim could just post that part too. Idk if he just changed the line or what... But I honestly don't think he meant badly by the comment. You can tell by the call that he thinks (or maybe 'thought' is now more appropriate) highly of her so he clearly wasn't trying to cause any offence... He's used the word 'bitch' in reference to Kim before as well. Of course it's supposed to be provocative but it seems to me she's using that one pitfall in Kim's exposing to justify herself. Yeah I mean she might just be using it to try one last way to play the victim. Either way it's a mess and she should just own up that she's made mistakes and been at least somewhat manipulative. I still love her either way. Still a mess though Human generated art Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCpro 14,846 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 buzzfeed exposing ha even more: https://www.buzzfeed.com/elliewoodward/is-this-proof-that-taylor-was-expecting-kim-to-release-that?bffbmain&ref=bffbmain&utm_term=.muMYREG0k#.wuMgEZ17N 08, 09, 11, 13, 16, 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauntingHollow 4,310 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 finally someone exposed her lying pancake scrotum, i always knew she was a fake and greedy rat with a razor voice, good luck Snakelor with your next lies, bye Felicia You can not hide if nobody pays attention to you :* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCpro 14,846 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 saw this on buzzfeed 08, 09, 11, 13, 16, 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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