Man gets one day in jail for rape charges

[Economy 52,861]

14 minutes ago, Kayla said:

I agree that punishment is necessary, but I also want to point out that favoring rehabilitation and alternative methods of justice/punishment being better actually IS supported by science. 

http://jpubhealth.oxfordjournals.org/content/27/2/143.full.pdf
"Multilevel, comprehensive prevention approaches that: emphasize making available to violent individuals the kinds of tools they need in order to develop non-violent skills and reality-based sources of self-esteem; increase their capacity to experience feelings of empathy and remorse; and provide opportunities to take responsibility and amend the injuries they have inflicted on others and on the whole community, may play an important role in reducing the cycle of violent crime."
"Inmates who participated in RSVP had lower rearrest rates for violent crimes and spent less time in custody. The decline in violent re-arrests increased with greater lengths of stay."

http://jpubhealth.oxfordjournals.org/content/27/2/149.full.pdf
"During the year before RSVP began, there were 24 violent incidents serious enough to have constituted felonies had they occurred in the community (roughly three per month) in the 62-bed dorm. During the first month RSVP was in effect there was one such incident; and for the following 12 months, there were none. During that same year, the control dorm that still followed traditional jail practices had 28 violent incidents."
"Correctional efforts may improve with the transformation of subcultures into therapeutic communities that facilitate the practice of prosocial skills over attitudes and mores that engender violence."

It's known that when it comes to drugs treatment is more effective than incarceration, but I feel drug crimes and physical violence crimes are incredibly different so even though it might help prove my claim, it feels wrong to use it as an example.  

So yeah, science does prove that Didymus' claims are more effective at curbing future violence than traditional systems of imprisonment and punishment. 

I can believe this easily!

 

Prison is just easy. Stick them in a room dont have to worry about it. And not enough people question why we are still using this form of punishment

 

I do believe in some cases prison might be the way to go. Some people are dangerous to the public and for the sake of safety keeping them away mught be best. People like multiple time rapists, serial killers etc

 

But crimes such as fraud, theft, illegal drugs etc...

 

Crimes like that could have a combination of fines, programs they have to go thru, certain lost priveledges etc etc etc depending on the crime

 

Locking ppl away only serves to drive people insane and doomed to repeat crimes i think 😒

[MJHolland 12,725]

6 hours ago, Kayla said:

I agree that punishment is necessary, but I also want to point out that favoring rehabilitation and alternative methods of justice/punishment being better actually IS supported by science. 

http://jpubhealth.oxfordjournals.org/content/27/2/143.full.pdf
"Multilevel, comprehensive prevention approaches that: emphasize making available to violent individuals the kinds of tools they need in order to develop non-violent skills and reality-based sources of self-esteem; increase their capacity to experience feelings of empathy and remorse; and provide opportunities to take responsibility and amend the injuries they have inflicted on others and on the whole community, may play an important role in reducing the cycle of violent crime."
"Inmates who participated in RSVP had lower rearrest rates for violent crimes and spent less time in custody. The decline in violent re-arrests increased with greater lengths of stay."

http://jpubhealth.oxfordjournals.org/content/27/2/149.full.pdf
"During the year before RSVP began, there were 24 violent incidents serious enough to have constituted felonies had they occurred in the community (roughly three per month) in the 62-bed dorm. During the first month RSVP was in effect there was one such incident; and for the following 12 months, there were none. During that same year, the control dorm that still followed traditional jail practices had 28 violent incidents."
"Correctional efforts may improve with the transformation of subcultures into therapeutic communities that facilitate the practice of prosocial skills over attitudes and mores that engender violence."

It's known that when it comes to drugs treatment is more effective than incarceration, but I feel drug crimes and physical violence crimes are incredibly different so even though it might help prove my claim, it feels wrong to use it as an example.  

So yeah, science does prove that Didymus' claims are more effective at curbing future violence than traditional systems of imprisonment and punishment. 

No, that study only looks a recidivism rates. It conveniently ignores tracking first time offenders because when the punishment for a crime is a tax-payer fancy rehabilition resort, people won't be deterred from committing those crimes in the first place. 

[Kayla 7,595]

1 hour ago, MJHolland said:

No, that study only looks a recidivism rates. It conveniently ignores tracking first time offenders because when the punishment for a crime is a tax-payer fancy rehabilition resort, people won't be deterred from committing those crimes in the first place. 

So you're saying the problem with these types of things is that they do not serve to deter first-time offenders?

Well clearly harsher prison sentencing hasn't deterred first-time offenders either, with rates of imprisonment being higher than they've EVER been, and highest in the WORLD, so is it really that bad of an idea to try an approach that is shown to lessen the likelihood of future crimes committed by repeat offenders? If someone has gotten themselves into jail in the first place, I'd rather have a system that prevents it from happening again. 

Clearly this "mandatory minimums" and super awful jail life idea isn't a good deterrent. If you can find actual evidence that proves the threat of harsh imprisonment deters first-time criminals please share, otherwise the only mentality here that has been proven is that harsh imprisonment INCREASES the rate of recidivism, which means it's not a good approach when the criminals you lock up turn around and **** up again when they're let out. 

[MJHolland 12,725]

7 minutes ago, Kayla said:

So you're saying the problem with these types of things is that they do not serve to deter first-time offenders?

Well clearly harsher prison sentencing hasn't deterred first-time offenders either, with rates of imprisonment being higher than they've EVER been, and highest in the WORLD, so is it really that bad of an idea to try an approach that is shown to lessen the likelihood of future crimes committed by repeat offenders? If someone has gotten themselves into jail in the first place, I'd rather have a system that prevents it from happening again. 

Clearly this "mandatory minimums" and super awful jail life idea isn't a good deterrent. If you can find actual evidence that proves the threat of harsh imprisonment deters first-time criminals please share, otherwise the only mentality here that has been proven is that harsh imprisonment INCREASES the rate of recidivism, which means it's not a good approach when the criminals you lock up turn around and **** up again when they're let out. 

It's that high because of drug offenses. Idk why you started talking about drug offenses. I'm taking about violent crime and sexual assault. Those punishments can almost never be harsh enough imo. 

[Princess Die 1,864]

Look into his cold dead eyes. The problem with this man's sentence is that he has virtually no repercussions stopping him from raping again. Probation won't do ****. 

[aaronyoji 2,064]

you know what we can do to help reduce rape crimes? not living in a misogynistic rape culture. and events like this procure that.