LGBT refugees may be harmed by Brexit

[Melech 9,900]

 

The U.K.’s vote to leave the European Union has sparked concern among activists who say the so-called Brexit referendum results could adversely impact LGBT asylum seekers.

Davis Mac-Iyalla, a gay Nigerian man who received asylum in the U.K., told the Washington Blade on Friday from London that he is “concerned” about the impact the referendum results will have on LGBT asylum seekers. Mac-Iyalla specifically expressed concern that “those fleeing persecution will not be sent back to countries where its unsafe for them.”

“Many LGBT refugee and asylum seekers talking to me are worried about how they will be treated with this outcome,” Mac-Iyalla told the Blade.

The European Court of Justice, which is the European Union’s highest court, in 2013 ruled those who face incarceration in their countries of origin because of their sexual orientation could receive asylum in the U.K. and the bloc’s 27 other member states. The European Court of Justice in 2014 said countries within the European Union cannot require gay asylum seekers to prove their homosexuality.

Geoffrey Ross, a gay British man who has lived in Paris for 40 years, is among those who backed the “remain” campaign that supported the U.K.’s membership in the European Union.

He told the Blade on Friday during a telephone interview from the French capital that LGBT asylum seekers have been deported from the U.K. because “they haven’t been able to establish to the authorities that there is a risk if they return home.” Ross also noted the anti-immigrant rhetoric that became more heated in the weeks leading up to the referendum.

“It could get worse because there’s an overwhelming climate of it’s all the immigrants’ fault,” he told the Blade. “That might also spread to LGBT asylum seekers.”

Nigel Farage, leader of the U.K. Independence Party who spearheaded the “leave” campaign, sparked outrage last week when he unveiled a poster featuring a group of migrants waiting to enter Slovenia that said, “We must break free of the EU and take back control of our borders.” Thomas Mair — a 52-year-old man with ties to a neo-Nazi group — allegedly stabbed Labor Party MP Jo Cox — who supported the “remain” campaign — to death on June 16.

Peter Tatchell, a prominent LGBT activist who is a member of the pro-European Union Green Party, told the Blade on Friday that the referendum results are “a victory for the right.” He noted that the U.K. Independence Party and most Conservative Party MPs who supported the “leave” campaign opposed marriage rights for same-sex couples as recently as three years ago when British lawmakers approved a gay nuptials law for England and Wales.

“We could see more restrictions on refugees being given asylum in the U.K., including LGBTI ones fleeing persecution in countries like Syria, Belarus, Iran and Uganda,” Tatchell told the Blade.

European Union has been ‘good for LGBT people’

“There can be no doubt that the EU has been good for LGBT people in terms of rights and visibility — hostility towards LGBT people has been steadily decreasing across Europe with the assurance of rights increased,” John O’Doherty of the Rainbow Project, an LGBT advocacy group in Northern Ireland, told the Blade on Friday. 

Other activists in the U.K. and across Europe also credit the European Union with expanding LGBT rights throughout the continent.

Countries that seek to join the bloc must agree to ban employment discrimination based on sexual orientation. Transgender Europe said on Friday that “the gains achieved in trans rights over the past years would have happened at a much slower rate without the European Union.”

“Over our 20-year history, we have supported the work of our dedicated U.K. membership, and learned just as much from them in return,” added ILGA-Europe in a statement. “So, as a European network of human rights activists, we naturally regret the fact that the U.K. will no long be a voice for progress in the European Union.”

“We can only hope that the U.K.’s exit from the European Union will not have a detrimental impact on the European LGBT community and that future U.K. governments and political leaders will continue to ensure the inequalities experienced by LGBT people in the U.K. are addressed,” he told the Blade."

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2016/06/24/brexit-vote-adversely-affect-lgbt-asylum-seekers/

the people who voted left voted for the People who are against immigration and asylum which means no rights for LGBT refugees. 

[HEARTHUNTER 7,611]

I knew that all refugees would be harmed by the Brexit, this is so sad.

Good job old gullible people from the UK

[Luc 4,776]

I think Brexit will lead to bigger immigration to the UK. Right-wing parties don't have much left to attract voters, so Labour will perhaps shine again, leading to a rise in asylum seekers accepted. That's how I think it will go 

[Dominic 11,922]

Hannan came forward yesterday and said the Brexit wouldn't have mass impact on immigration, it was just scaremongering tactics to persuade voters. 

Even so there are a lot of hoops to jump through to even reach that point. Article 50 hasn't and may never even get put into action depending on further negotiations. I also read it wouldn't have an impact on those already here so this article just seems like further hysteria and assumptions.  

[Saint Laurent 4,862]

Absolutely nobody has been or will be deported from the UK. We have had LGBT protective laws from a long time, something the EU has not explicitly dealt with so why would we suddenly start being homophobic?

Under the Luxembourg convention, everybody is allowed to remain where they are at least until the UK is officially not in the EU and quite likely afterwards. 

Anybody that is deported from the UK is deported because of security issues, nobody has ever been or will ever be deported for being gay. We are not a homophobic nation and have had LGBT laws including gay marriage laws before a large proportion of the EU and indeed the world. 

Also, Nigel Farage is NOT the leader of UKIP and in fact, is not even a member of Parliament meaning he has not one single ounce of power. 

Educate yourself before you make such outlandish statements. 

[Melech 9,900]

3 minutes ago, Saint Laurent said:

Absolutely nobody has been or will be deported from the UK. We have had LGBT protective laws from a long time, something the EU has not explicitly dealt with so why would we suddenly start being homophobic?

Under the Luxembourg convention, everybody is allowed to remain where they are at least until the UK is officially not in the EU and quite likely afterwards. 

Anybody that is deported from the UK is deported because of security issues, nobody has ever been or will ever be deported for being gay. We are not a homophobic nation and have had LGBT laws including gay marriage laws before a large proportion of the EU and indeed the world. 

Also, Nigel Farage is NOT the leader of UKIP and in fact, is not even a member of Parliament meaning he has not one single ounce of power. 

Educate yourself before you make such outlandish statements. 

EU hasn't deal with with? Lol did you even read the article ???

"The European Court of Justice, which is the European Union’s highest court, in 2013 ruled those who face incarceration in their countries of origin because of their sexual orientation could receive asylum in the U.K. and the bloc’s 27 other member states. The European Court of Justice in 2014 said countries within the European Union cannot require gay asylum seekers to prove their homosexuality."

 

nobody is saying uk is homophobic. It's about refugees. And the EU is by far not more homphobic. 

[Saint Laurent 4,862]

12 minutes ago, Simon said:

EU hasn't deal with with? Lol did you even read the article ???

"The European Court of Justice, which is the European Union’s highest court, in 2013 ruled those who face incarceration in their countries of origin because of their sexual orientation could receive asylum in the U.K. and the bloc’s 27 other member states. The European Court of Justice in 2014 said countries within the European Union cannot require gay asylum seekers to prove their homosexuality."

 

nobody is saying uk is homophobic. It's about refugees. And the EU is by far not more homphobic. 

I was talking about LGBT rights, not asylum seekers. The OP appears to be riddled with insinuation of homophobia. 

Why everybody seems to be under the delusion that the UK is closing their borders is beyond me, we haven't even begun discussions about immigration, or anything else for that matter. 

Speculation =/= politics. 

The main concern of the UK at the moment is our government, not the EU, which is why we are not immidealty invoking Article 50. 

What I'm saying is, hang fire and stop speculating. We are not a homophobic nation and I'm sure, regardless of our exit, if an asylum seeker is genuinely in need of another place to relocate, the UK are more than likely to accomodate that need. 

[SlaeUrAnus 16,111]

1 hour ago, Saint Laurent said:

Absolutely nobody has been or will be deported from the UK. We have had LGBT protective laws from a long time, something the EU has not explicitly dealt with so why would we suddenly start being homophobic?

Under the Luxembourg convention, everybody is allowed to remain where they are at least until the UK is officially not in the EU and quite likely afterwards. 

Anybody that is deported from the UK is deported because of security issues, nobody has ever been or will ever be deported for being gay. We are not a homophobic nation and have had LGBT laws including gay marriage laws before a large proportion of the EU and indeed the world. 

Also, Nigel Farage is NOT the leader of UKIP and in fact, is not even a member of Parliament meaning he has not one single ounce of power. 

Educate yourself before you make such outlandish statements. 

Thank you! 👏 

[uo111 5,282]

3 hours ago, HEARTHUNTER said:

I knew that all refugees would be harmed by the Brexit, this is so sad.

Good job old gullible people from the UK

If you aren't from the UK, how can you say they are gullible for not wanting to be apart of the EU which, by all accounts is a big giant mess that only Germany seems to like because Germany basically runs it.

I've heard nothing good about the EU until Britain decided to leave, tbh.

[Melech 9,900]

19 minutes ago, uo111 said:

If you aren't from the UK, how can you say they are gullible for not wanting to be apart of the EU which, by all accounts is a big giant mess that only Germany seems to like because Germany basically runs it.

I've heard nothing good about the EU until Britain decided to leave, tbh.

Is you because you don't live here. EU has many benefits including educational programs, free movement and more

[HEARTHUNTER 7,611]

33 minutes ago, uo111 said:

If you aren't from the UK, how can you say they are gullible for not wanting to be apart of the EU which, by all accounts is a big giant mess that only Germany seems to like because Germany basically runs it.

I've heard nothing good about the EU until Britain decided to leave, tbh.

Because you know nothing about the EU since you don't live there, that's why sweetie

The UK basically gave up on many advantages and programs which is a bummer.

[ItsTommyBitch 12,640]

Wasn't it a given that all immigrants and refugees would pretty much be harmed by Brexit?  

[uo111 5,282]

9 hours ago, HEARTHUNTER said:

Because you know nothing about the EU since you don't live there, that's why sweetie

The UK basically gave up on many advantages and programs which is a bummer.

You don't live in Britain.

I'll let you dwell on the irony of what you just said.

[HEARTHUNTER 7,611]

4 minutes ago, uo111 said:

You don't live in Britain.

I'll let you dwell on the irony of what you just said.

Oh, don't think I'm uninformed because it's not the case! I live in Europe, in France more precisely and I've been in the UK enough to know what it is to live there, my uncle lives there actually and I was supposed to finish my degree there in two years, which might probably not happen anymore though

I've experienced both of the advantages and inconvenients to live there and in France. None of these countries is perfect and both have drawbacks. So what I said about 

So, that argument about old people being too gullible was based on the results of the votes and the difference of votes according to age ranges. I don't have the graphics right now but I will look at them for tomorrow and send them to you. I'm mainly mad that the elder in the UK were basically fooled by Leave campaigns and some didn't even knew what the refferendum/voting was for. Also, really, everyone keeps saying that Germany rules the EU which is a blatant false statement/accusation. The fault should be thrown on politicians from every country who participate in the decisional meetings! Don't think Germany Is fully immune to the EU, it's not the case.

I wrote paragraphs about the issue on other threads related to the Brexit, I don't have any more will to get restarted on this tbh

On a final note : you can swim on that supposed irony, and I hope you don't stay bitter just because I said you don't live in EU/UK.

Keep it cute, xoxo

[uo111 5,282]

5 minutes ago, HEARTHUNTER said:

Oh, don't think I'm uninformed because it's not the case! I live in Europe, in France more precisely and I've been in the UK enough to know what it is to live there, my uncle lives there actually and I was supposed to finish my degree there in two years, which might probably not happen anymore though

I've experienced both of the advantages and inconvenients to live there and in France. None of these countries is perfect and both have drawbacks. So what I said about 

So, that argument about old people being too gullible was based on the results of the votes and the difference of votes according to age ranges. I don't have the graphics right now but I will look at them for tomorrow and send them to you. I'm mainly mad that the elder in the UK were basically fooled by Leave campaigns and some didn't even knew what the refferendum/voting was for. Also, really, everyone keeps saying that Germany rules the EU which is a blatant false statement/accusation. The fault should be thrown on politicians from every country who participate in the decisional meetings! Don't think Germany Is fully immune to the EU, it's not the case.

I wrote paragraphs about the issue on other threads related to the Brexit, I don't have any more will to get restarted on this tbh

On a final note : you can swim on that supposed irony, and I hope you don't stay bitter just because I said you don't live in EU/UK.

Keep it cute, xoxo

I find the idea that old people don't know what they're doing and are just being manipulated delusional at best.

Young people don't know any better than older folks. I know the voter demographics were split. What I don't know is why you think that helps your arguement.

Stay mad because the UK doesn't want to pay for your schooling.