PartySick 174,609 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Four gun policy measures failed to pass the 60-vote threshold to move forward in the Senate on Monday, following impassioned debate from both sides of the aisle. The votes came just over a week after a deadly shooting spree in a gay nightclub in Orlando — the nation's worst mass shooting in modern history — and a subsequent 15-hour filibuster by Senate Democrats who demanded action on gun control. Dueling amendments on improving background checks for gun sales echoed debates of years' past when, in the year following the shooting massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, a bipartisan bill on background checks failed. "I know at a deep personal level what Orlando is going through," Murphy said on the Senate floor. "For all of the scarring, psychological harm that comes with losing a loved one or a neighbor, more harm is piled on when you find out that the people you elected to run your country just don't care. It hurts something awful when you lose someone, but it gets worse when your leaders are silent, are totally silent in the face of your personal horror." http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orlando-nightclub-massacre/senate-votes-down-4-gun-policy-measures-thorny-showdown-n595896?cid=sm_fb (I wish we still could make short links ) Basically this: -In 1st vote, the US Senate blocks measure to increase funding and resources for national background check system -In 2nd vote, the US Senate blocks measure expanding national background check system to close “gun show loophole" -In 3rd vote, the US Senate blocks measure to delay gun purchases for suspected terrorists while seeking court ruling on sale -In 4th vote, the US Senate blocks measure to prevent individuals on terror watch list from buying a gun Not that any of these proposals were totally 100% solid (aside from increased funding and closing the loophole), it's a complicated issue after all, but it's still absolutely frustrating. Once again, nothing changes. Mr. Obama, prepare speech #17!! Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagajandro25 6,103 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Lady Gaga is a legend and you will deal with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Can we just charge them with obstruction of justice or something? I can't wait for the Dickey Amendment to finally be thrown out, whenever that happens so that we can evidence that says "oh look, giving people more guns does NOT make things safer!" and then when we look at the decrease in deaths due to gun violence in x number of decades, people can look back and say "Wow, I guess the NRA was wrong afterall, there's less gun violence and I still have my guns!" 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,974 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 The first one should have passed, but the other three were right to have been blocked. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 174,609 Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, FATCAT said: The first one should have passed, but the other three were right to have been blocked. The gun show one? Idk, I don't think private citizens should be able to just sell their guns to anyone. I understand the terror watch list one though. They need to pour more resources into that before it can be used to justify taking someone's rights away. Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 I forget the poll but it was something like 54% of Americans favor gun control 78% Democrats favor gun control 50% of Republicans favor gun control 49% of independents favor gun control for God's sake can we get something done. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Computer 10,980 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Thanks Senate! 💚💛💕❣⭕💢💢 | ⓜⓔⓡⓡⓨ ©ⓗⓡⓘⓢⓣⓜⓐⓢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,998 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Just now, just4fun said: I forget the poll but it was something like 54% of Americans favor gun control 78% Democrats favor gun control 50% of Republicans favor gun control 49% of independents favor gun control for God's sake can we get something done. But the NRA doesn't. Apparently money is all that matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 174,609 Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 Just now, Morphine Prince said: But the NRA doesn't. Apparently money is all that matters. Bingo Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid 6,755 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Disgusting. Obviously doing nothing is NOT working, at least they could increase funding to the background check system. Wtf is wrong with our government, this shouldn't be a debate at this point. No we shouldn't ban guns or take them from people but we could at least try more background checks!!!! Common ****ing sense. How many people have died while they sit there not doing a damn thing about it? ...ıllıllı c h e r r y c h e r r y b o o m b o o m ıllıllı... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,974 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, PartySick said: The gun show one? Idk, I don't think private citizens should be able to just sell their guns to anyone. I understand the terror watch list one though. They need to pour more resources into that before it can be used to justify taking someone's rights away. I just went to a gun show last month. I don't think registering guns should be mandatory. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,998 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Just remember your neighbors voted these people in. Vote them ALL out when elections come around. Don't skip voting because it really matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, FATCAT said: I just went to a gun show last month. I don't think registering guns should be mandatory. Why? "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, PartySick said: The gun show one? Idk, I don't think private citizens should be able to just sell their guns to anyone. I understand the terror watch list one though. They need to pour more resources into that before it can be used to justify taking someone's rights away. This. I'm not sure how you can justify blocking the first 3 tbh No to more background checks spending? It will help them be more efficient and effective No to gun show loopholes so people who are unfit to own guns can go around the system and get them anyway? The third one seems like a half-way point to the 4th one, but I think it's okay; it didnt elaborate on how much of a "delay" there is or would be, but I think im for it. I am with you on the 4th one; it seems a bit hypocritical to the whole "Everyone has the right to own a gun!" thing, even if I get the rationale, the NSA, FBI, etc. get stuff wrong ALL of the time and I'd hate to be a lets say totally innocent Muslim-American who can't own a gun but actually needs one for whatever reason just because they messed up. Wasnt Bernie heavily against especially the gun show thing? 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagajandro25 6,103 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Dumb buffoons Can't wait for them to be voted out of office Me if I ever run into one of them Lady Gaga is a legend and you will deal with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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